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the movie was better
I didn't have high expectations going into this, having read a lot of the comments and the reviews about it. I was mostly watching it for New, as i really liked his performances in Kiss Me Again and Dark Blue Kiss. He was as good in this as he has been in everything else I've seen in him. His emotional range is excellent, especially in the later episodes.My problem is that this series goes for too long. They could have cut the episode number down to 10, or even 8, and still told the same story. Most of the scenes feel like filler. And tedious filler at that. So much of it is unnecessary.
I thought the conflict between Waii and his father was very well done. It was something I could relate to. I liked the portrayal of Coach Tee and Kan's relationship. Despite their 20 year age difference, there were no hints of abuse or manipulation (unlike the godawful relationship between Bright and Farm in Together With Me) and their relationship seemed more focused on supporting each other and honest communication, which was refreshing to see.
I liked the slow build of Waii and Apo's relationship, and how Apo always supported Waii whilst not hesitating to tell him the truth and giving him solid and well thought out advice.
I also liked the relationships between Kluay and Achi, and Wan and Min.
If the show had just stuck to the relationships between these characters and left the swimming club as more of a backdrop, it would have improved things considerably.
As it is, we get a terrible lesbian-meets-the-right-guy-and-turns-straight-for-him storyline (which wouldn't nominally be problem, but the show never says she's bi or pan, and we get so little of the 'L' representation in LBGTQ+ stories, especially in Thailand, that it really annoys me when this happens) that's made worse by the bullying she subjects the poor young man to. We get a half-assed plot about a play to raise money to save the club, which goes nowhere; a plot involving Min and his ex which also goes nowhere; and a lot of scenes of fit young men lounging around in tiny swim shorts - lovely eye-candy, but pretty much pointless.
And, of course, the ever-present love triangle, because a male character with a girlfriend can't fall for another man and then just do the right thing and break it off with her, because where's the drama in that? Maybe if this had been the first BL-ish series I'd ever watched, I might have let it go. Unfortunately, I've watched quite a few now and it's really, really over-used. I'm bored by it.
And here it's not even done right, because it's made clear that Waii wants Apo (he literally asks him to stay forever) and then, when his girlfriend tries to break up with him because she knows something is going on, he refuses to let her go and promises to stop being with Apo.
Refusing to break up before you're sure of your own feelings for another person is one thing. Refusing to break up after you've already kissed another person and told them you want to be with them forever? An entirely different thing altogether. It's just another plot device to up the melodrama and drag the story out some more.
I've heard the movie is better, so that's what I'm going to go watch next.
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Dissapointing
This series was sadly so disappointing. I loved the concept of it mainly revolving around the swim team and them going through their trial and tribulations. It was new, it was different, but, the execution of the characters and the story fell short.I was 100% behind Waii and Apo, and I don't even like enemies to lovers, but New and Earth are incredible actors and they played the tension off so well. I immediately lost interest after the s*xual as*ult happened. It was uncalled for, it was purposeless, and ruined any hope that I had for them. BLs have to learn that consent is sexy and romanticizing anything outside of consent is ugly as fuck. After those events, I was so close to dropping this series, but I then came Kluay and Achi and I stayed. I loved the dynamic of these two, but sadly we barely got to see anything go on between them. I would've much rather watched these two than anything else that happened in this series.
I guess this is more of a side BL in a regular drama since we had to deal with the drama of the actual main couples. Quite frankly, the leading females were dramatic and unbearable. I would like these shows to stop treating their female characters with basic stereotypes and actually give them real traits. Also didn't like how they played out Pan to be a lesbian and then just do a 180 and end up with Fah. Would've loved to see her story with her female love interest.
There was also some weird stuff that went on between the coach and one of the players. Kind of awkward, and felt forced.
Overall, this show had good acting and a good production team. I loved the friendships that we saw and the new concept that was tried out. I love New and Earth, but this was not it. I don't think they had good chemistry, especially after the unfortunate events. So glad they found other partners to work with that they can create good on-screen chemistry with.
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Not a must watch in my opinion.
I am honestly not sure what to think of this one.Let me first say I absolutely loved all of the actors and bought everything they were trying to convey. I also loved and shipped all of the couples and their chemistry, the “main” one as well as the “side” couples. Now the reason I put these in parenthesis is one of the problems I and probably others had with this Drama.
If you had not known who the main couple is from the get go, you probably would not have guessed it either, until maybe the the last few episodes. Because they got a maximum of maybe 10 minutes screen time per episode. However I do understand that they could probably not have had any more screen time since their story development would not have allowed it.
And this is part of the second problem I had with this drama, which was the main reason I’m giving this such a low rating and is merely a personal preference thing: the development of all of the couples was extremely slow and extremely frustrating at times. I am someone who needs a good mixture of happiness, cuteness and sadness, frustration, otherwise I lose interest.
The other major problem for me was the character portrayed by Earth: Waii, so one of the leads, who in my opinion was just a major douche most of the time and basically the only source of conflict for the main couple, and other couples for that matter. I do not like Dramas where the entire problem lies with one character and his behaviour. We have had similar storylines before, If you’ve seen “together with me” it’s kind of similar. However for some reason Waii just pissed me off a hell of a lot more, probably because I really really liked Apo’s character (the other lead). For me to really love a story there needs to be Mutual conflict, both characters need to be flawed, make mistakes and grow accordingly. This was not only missing for the main couple but for most side couples too, there was an over all theme of one person being the “bad guy”.
That being said, if you want to watch it sure do! The happy scenes that we do get are definitely worth it. And considering the plot is based off a novel (that I haven’t read) it is probably the best they could have made out of it (if I ever do read the novel of course that opinion may change). For me it’s not a must watch, and I would probably only rewatch it for the sake of the actors...
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watched it for the bl couple since the series was a mess anyway. skipped to the bl scenes but even they are problematic. whats up with the bl industry romanticizing sexual assault? i thought new and earths chemistry was okay but now that earth is with mix i can definitely see the difference in how they were not compatible at all. caught a whiff of the other scenes as well but they were so cringe worthy and even tried to romanticze pedophilia/power abuse?? this whole series is a mess but im glad it introduced me to new and earth atleast they tried to save it a little bitCet avis était-il utile?
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This show should never have existed
This is quite frankly the worst Thai show I've ever watched in my life. Every relationship has extreme issues and its never really condemned. The straight couple hates each other's guts and does super manipulative things to get at each other. The "lesbian" who horribly bullies the nerdy boy who has a phobia of pools until she falls in love with him and breaks up with girl she's with. The main gay couple are dysfunctional and one attempts to rape the other at one point. Finally, the swim coach is dating his son's friend who is way too young to be appropriate. If I could destroy one show from existing in the world it would be this show.Cet avis était-il utile?
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Emotions are a messy thing, much like this series.
This may be set at a university, but with the execution of this series the location might as well been at a high school with the characters being a bunch of childish freshman.Cast:
Victor Chatchawit Techarukpong (Min) and New Thitipoom Tacha-apaikun (Apo) definitely carried this series both in their characters and their acting abilities. I think this would have extended to Tytan Teepprasan (Achi) as well if his character was more developed and given more screen time. These three all showed their ability to convey their emotions through their facial expressions, body language, etc. much more than any of the other actors did.
Story:
This is one of those series that just simply tries to do too much and in the process loses much of the quality and potential it could have had. It's important to remember when you're working with source material that sometimes you have to pick and chose what parts of that source material you're going to use and what's best to leave.
OVERALL:
In many ways I think the movie version actually handled a lot of the situations better. The performances from a couple of the actors is what really saved this from having a lower score. There was just too much that was glossed over and too much that was added in that shouldn't have been so they could have focused more on the really important things.
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The chemistry between the actors was the best part of the show. The actors who played Apo (New) and Waii (Earth) were obviously close friends. There were some scenes in which I could not hep but wonder if they felt awkward (maybe because they look very straight to me haha) but they did not look awkward at all. Everyone was professional and the characters were believable. I wish we got to see more of Achi and Kluai too but that's okay.
The soundtrack was stunning and appropriate. I couldn't help but (try to) sing along.
Waii grew up so much during the show (as well as other characters, of course) and it made my heart soft.
I'm glad I decided to watch it. But if you're looking for a super complicated plot this is not the series for you. It's more about the characters. That's why I wish there was a second season. They could come up with a really cool plot now that the characters are settled.
And am I the only one who thought about the anime Free! ? I couldn't help myself haha
Here I go follow the actors on Instagram ;)
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The truth about this bl series you need to know before you see this!!!
Hello!! Before everything i wanna tell you that i'm not that good at english so it can have gramatic errors and other wrong stuff! sorry 4 thatI saw many people telling that this series is really good, rating this sh*t with an 10 but bro i guess they don't know how to appreciate series or they just watch stuff (i remeber that i was like this) and never watched a good gmmtv series (not so hard to find).
I just watched it because my dream is watch all lgbtqia+ series by gmmtv and obv water boyy is one.
this series have many triggers like:
-rape
-cheat
-stalk
-a lesbian character dating with a man
-and many other really bad stuff..
so i was with faith about the relashion shipp between the lesbian character with a girl (pan and namkhaeng) and basically the all 12 episodes was everything okay, pan trying to have namkhaeng's heart and they do date in the series. BUT BRO.. WHY THEY PUT PAN WITH FAH IN THE 2 LAST EPISODES???? like nobody cares about fah feelings about pan because we know that pan is a lesbian woman (i guess she's no more) and like i though that hadn't chance but bro why does gmm made it! like ok they still could put the namkhaeng and pan's broke up in the series but they don't need to put her with a straight man.
I noticed that in this series they just care about man's feeling.. not about woman's feeling. The situation of fah they do care, the situation of fay they don't care because omg he's with broken heart BECAUSE HIS LESBIAN CRUSH ARE DATING DO THEY NEED TO PUT HIM DATING WITH HER but litteraly your boyfriend cheated on you and they don't do nothing!!! have so many bad stuff in this drama. IT HAD EVERYTHING TO BE REALLY GOOD. this drama is really confuse because like if you watch it you'll never understand what's happening. Is really easy get lost watching this drama.. i guess that if they put pan and namkhaeng and waii broke up with fay before he tell him feelings to apo and other many stuff like the rape thing and idk.. the series could be really good. was such boring watch it.. like sotus is from 2016 and is SO MUCH BETTER. i do like the kluay and achi romance but was too short! Apo and Waii are a good couple and Earth and New are really good actors but like the story didn't make it look good. if you watch like 1000 stars that's a f*cking prodution by gmm you'll see how good Earth is (or even moonlight chicken and cupid's last wish). well i'm not a fan of dark blue kiss but New was insane in dbk- wan and min's plot is good but min made shit and it was kinda slow..
but yeah i can't keep writing about it so i'll stop do it right now! watch it by yourself and tell me what do you think.
(i just put 1 star in rewatch value because mydramalist don't accept 0.. you need to put a number between 1 ans 10)
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