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WhiteLilly
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déc. 20, 2015
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This drama did deliver. It is indeed EPIC.

I have seen many historical dramas, but I have to admit this one tops them all.

It is very well made and high quality, the plot is very strategic but believable
and the suspense is intense since you watch one ongoing plot all the time (there
is just a straight cut at the ending of each episodes, kind of when you just turn
off your movie in the middle of it).

The martial arts are great and (for Chinese standards) not so much over the top.

The actors are insanely good.

If I had anything to critisize, then it would be that I hoped for an itsy bitsy more romance
going on (just a tiny bit, too much would have destroyed the mood of this drama), at least
at the end.
And the ending itself could have been shown more. It is a final ending, you know what
happens, but still, I would have hoped to see it actually happening (but this is just my preference).

This drama is in its own league when it comes to historical dramas and you would be insane
to miss it if you like this genre.

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févr. 2, 2016
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Musique 9.0
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I love this show, like a lot. I accidentally came across the show when I was having a lonely moment waiting for the next episode of Six Flying Dragons to air, and I am so glad I did!

The fact that it's the first Chinese drama to attract my attention in eight years is definitely such a huge feat to me..especially a show with such a subtle romance like that..So what's so amazing about it?

Because it was about defeating the evil through an intelligent method instead of simply falling on your knees begging for mercy :D I love how one motive led to such a touching friendships and bittersweet victory. And the characters.............. *sighs*

Mei Changsu aka Su Zhe aka Lin Shu - He amazed me! I love how he's so weak yet can be so powerful at the same moment. Such a fragile man able to shake up the King, what not to admire, right? I love how calm his character is and I think Hu Ge did amazing job at portraying him as a weak guy. When he's in pain, I could feel his pain and when he's in anger, I could feel his anger.

Prince Jing aka Xiao Jingyan - He's so.....nice. However his moral was such a huge pain in everyone else's necks most of the time. I love how no matter what people say or ask him to do, he would never bend to their wants if it requires him to go against what he believes in. It made him weak and strong at the same time. The other thing that I love about him would be that he's very, and I repeat, very loyal to his friend, Lin Shu. At times I even felt that he suffered the most when it comes to the tragedy because he wasn't there when the Chiyan army was attacked and he wasn't there to defend them once they were gone. He was basically helpless and it pained him every breath he took. I am glad that he finally managed to do something in the end.

Fei Liu - I love how he was so amazing at martial arts yet be so simple minded at the same time. His antics made me smile again and again. He was my anchor in the sea full of sadness. :D

General Meng - I love the fact he was a general that commanded 50000 soldiers yet can't be really slow at picking up clues most of the time.. His loyalty to

The Emperor - Ugh, I hated him, he was to freaking proud of himself!

Jingrui - He was an amazing friend. I think even Prince Jing couldn't defeat him when it comes to being reallllllllly nice.

Yujin - He was sooooooooooo simple, I like him lol

Duchess Nihuang - She was strong but when it comes to Lin Shu she was so fragile. If she were to live in this era, she would be singing "The One That Got Away by Katy Perry" again and again..

The official soundtracks were very touching and beautiful.
The graphic effects weren't overdone.
The actors acted well.
The plot was very intriguing.
The pace was great.
And the ending was nice.

So 10 stars from the nobody me :D

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Okay, so I had previously written below, in the comment section, how I just couldn't get into this drama. In fact, I put it on hold for a month at ep. 17. I didn't do that because it was bad, just that the pacing was affecting my ability to really get into this thing.

So, I finally went back to watching it. Still found it difficult, then around the mid-30ish episodes all hell started to break lose. I don't think it was necessarily that the pace picked up as much as it was just so much intricate stuff unfolding over and over you started to be curious how all of it was gonna play out...

AND the BROMANCE really started getting heated up. In vary ways, not just with one single pairing of dudes but MULTIPLE pairs of dudes did I start getting an underlying BL feel but in a very "beautiful and undirty" way. You're not ashamed to "ship" these guys being "BROS". You actually truly appreciate the loyalty and commitments everyone has for each other. Not to discount that there are some very strong females, but, YES, it is a FACT that in this series, pretty much most of the woman are secondary, except for how they can be "used" in a "positive" way to meet the objectives. But, you really do get excited for the bromances overall.

In the end, as I had stated, I never truly felt like I was invested in any one particular person. It's not like the outcome was anything that couldn't be easily predicted. It can, AND it should be predictable. The thing that ended up being unpredictable and surprising to me was MY actual REACTION to the end. I in no way felt like this show was making me emotional. Intrigued, curious, yes; emotion, no. YET, when it came to the last 1/2 of the LAST episode I found myself 100% in utter tears, a sobbing mess, that I couldn't even contain myself and started literally crying out loud, saying, "WHY DO I DO THIS TO MYSELF!?! I HATE THE CHINESE!" ...and I mean that with all deference attached to it...

I've watched a number of Asian dramas in the last 8 years and the fair share of them had heart-wrenching endings... BUT THERE ARE THE HANDFUL THAT ACTUALLY GOT ME TO LITERALLY SOB OUT LOUD! I've cried, but I'm not an easily emotional woman. I don't take to sobbing my heart out... and well, YES, that's exactly what this series pulled out of me, as much as I tried to remain unattached and emotionless through all 54 episodes... it still managed to squeeze that shit out of me against, what I felt, was my will. ...That's some powerful stuff right there.

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I'm a kind of person who is very picky and wouldn't watch any thing till the end. I usually would watch only beginning and the end. I've watched many dramas which cause me to feel emotional... But this Drama was beyond emotional. It was magnificent, splendid, perfect, outstanding, and.... Can't even describe it anymore. Have you ever felt disappointed in the drama you were watching episode after episode? Then watch this Drama. You won't be disappointed at all in fact, you would want it not to finish. After watching the story you will never forget the casts again. The story can be a little boring at first because you don't know what's going on obviously. However, remember every scenes you are watching will be supporting the later episodes and will become Very Very Very GOOD story and you will never want it to end.

I found this drama randomly on viki.com. At first I wasn't very serious about it because I thought it would be like other dramas I watched before. There are many dramas I like out there so I didn't think it's gonna be a serious condition. I didn't like the title either. Well, for some reason I decided to give a try out of bore. Just to kill leisure time. After watching two episodes, I began to curious about Mei Chungsu. I decided to watch more. And after five episode, I realized it was a good drama. Then after watching to episode fifteen, I couldn't stop myself from thinking about it. LOL.. On new year's eve, I came back home from work early around 10:30 in the morning. As soon as I came back I didn't eat or do anything, but started watching it till 3:30 a.m. the next morning. I didn't know how the NewYear passed. I watched again the next day I woke up. I slept at 2:30 a.m. in the next morning again. You can imagine how I would look like by now. My eyes were red with dark cycles and eye bags. My lips were white and had to go into bathroom to wash my face with cold water many times at work. Yet I thought of this drama all day at work. T_T

The drama doesn't have much romance but it was brotherly, and family love which made my heart melts. It was about a very intelligent but sick man name Mei ChungSu, his friends and relatives. Basically political scenes but with deep meanings tied to it. I love the plotting. Every move every character made seemed simple but later revelations were astounding. That is which made the drama more interesting episode after episode. Mei Chungsu was the main character but you won't see him very often yet all characters and plots played out perfectly to convey the true character of Mei Chunsu.

It was REALLY GOOD. I didn't want it to end. I want to keep watching it. But sadly I finished it. :(

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avril 23, 2016
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I'm usually not a big fan of Chinese dramas, but I've been hearing so many good things about Nirvana in Fire from both the English-speaking community and also the Chinese-speaking community that I've decided to give it a try despite facing multiple deadlines from school.

And boy, did I regretted that choice! Not because this drama was a flop, but it was an absolute crack! I find myself marathoning the whole series one episode after another for the entire week without doing much work.

In terms of plot, I have read the novel prior to watching the show, so I came in with the expectation of a highly intricate and well-woven plot. But the changes made in the series has been mostly for the better part and I didn't find any dissatisfying moments at all! In fact, I think they have changed some of the things I could care less from the book and make the entire plot more tightly woven in terms of the narrative with a more focused perspective on the battle to the throne. I know the ending has been slightly controversial and I am glad they have decided to stay true to the original work and kept it the way it is, except for elaborating on truly dealing with how differently each character would react. The ending for this show is one of my top favourites of all time for sure!

For the acting in this series, I have to say I was surprised at the 180º change Hu Ge is able to pull off. He has always been associated as a pretty face in my impression and at most a decent actor. However, this series has officially pulled him out from the slightly-better-than-mediocre crowd and into one of the best actors I've seen in a long while! The fact that he is able to overcome most of his trauma from the accident and is able to show so much more through the way he communicates with both of his eyes is a huge step towards becoming a truly great actor. I think he has the potential to keep up with this quality of work as long as he meets a good script and good director.

This show is a definite must-watch for anyone who is interested in historical dramas or even just for the eye-candy! There are so many different types of men to choose from, it's like a feast of varieties in terms of your own preference. One thing I also really liked is the strong female characters in this show and the romance between the lead characters aren't as forced as it was in the Disguiser (a series which featured many from the same cast and the romance was handled very poorly). The fact that each woman can stand for her own is impressive and that the relationships between characters (not limited to romantic relationships) are so much more realistic and sincere without the forcibly added romance commonly seen in other dramas.

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janv. 26, 2016
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This drama is so good I'm really sad that I've done watching it. You want more but you don't want it to end. So much dilemma.

There are many surprises coming along the way. You'd feel all kind of emotions watching this drama. Even though it feels like such a long journey to watch 54 episodes, it actually won't feel like it took that much time. Because, you just can't stop watching! Seriously, every episode leaves you hanging like 'my mind won't feel at ease if I don't watch the next episode' 'ok just one more episode for tonight' and you'll (me) end(ed) watching not just one more but MORE episodes. Lol I even got a cold because I only slept for a few hours these last few days, I can't stop wanting more, I just can't.

I like this drama because its' story is different, in terms of the main role, how he is barely struggling for his life and still wanting to bring justice and the truth, while doing this and that, hiding this and that. It's more than just about conspiracy, corrupt people, injustice, and battles.

And the scenes with sword fighting is also amusing to watch.

The actors, the actresses, their acting is marvelous.

This drama is very detailed, with the scenes, the talkings, the gestures/body language and facial expressions, etc etc.

The ending is also beautiful in its way.

Totally worth your time to watch this drama.

Like R-E-A-L-L-Y.

P.S.: I'm re-watching it now. I rarely re-watch movies/dramas (so rare, it can be counted by fingers, especially dramas I rewatched it accidentaly when it's on tv only), moreover it's not long (ONLY BEEN ONE DAY) since I finished it. I need more Mei Changsu & Prince Jing & Fei Liu & Meng Zhi & Princess Nihuang please helpppp.

I'm in agony...

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This show is truly a masterpiece. From beginning to end, I was never disappointed.

From the very start, you are thrown into the story with little to no context. It is definitely confusing having no backstory to go on. You must give the drama your absolute undivided attention because every line of the dialogue, every little detail will come back to bite you.

This show is highly intelligent, with long conversations that drive the plot. It's tightly written and there are no filler episodes, which I appreciate. There are many, many characters but all are important. However, I did not expect them to be written so well. Every character is complex, has their own backstory, motives and a role in the Grand Plan. This cast is the most solid ensemble I've seen in Asian television. The casting director is an absolute genius.

You would expect political dramas to be more fast-paced. However, I find the slower pace of Nirvana in Fire perfect. The schemers and our heroes are not out in the open, they must try to hide their actions from the highly suspicious Emperor. And for this reason, story arcs tend to build up slowly, rather than dramatically. The slower pace also allows us to absorb the onslaught of information properly.

Upon finishing this magnificent drama, the first thought is to begin the journey all over again. To catch every single detail, to pay more attention to the costuming, to marvel at the beauty of the set, to get lost in the sounds of traditional Chinese instruments, to observe how exactly Mei Changsu kicked his Grand Plan into motion.

Ultimately, Nirvana in Fire stole my heart because of the themes it explores. The writer epically exemplifies the relationships between brotherhood, justice, truth, honour, loyalty, morality and love until you're not sure where one begins and the other ends. To fight against adversity for what you believe in is no easy feat. And it is the fire and determination our heroes use to do this that makes Nirvana in Fire resonate in our hearts.

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I signed up for a new account on MyDramaList just so I could rave about my latest obsession. Nirvana in Fire was possibly one of the best drama series I have ever watched. (PERIOD!) I am comparing the amazing quality of this show to my American favorites of Breaking Bad and Game of Thrones. It is very hard for shows to wow me as I am one of those annoying critics that cannot simply just swallow what the director hands me. The screenplay, dialogue and cinematography must all pass my logical test. How believable were the characters and their motives? How interesting was the plot? At the same time, the events that unfold must be engaging and shocking. All in all, I am a tough person to impress. It might sound strange to say this drama passed all of my critical qualms when there are flying swordsmen literally fighting in mid-air but it was that type of drama. The screenplay was so believable you actually overlooked the fantastical aspects as merely interesting parts of this magical world.

With all that said, the plot, as brilliantly written and executed as it was actually took a backseat to the relationships between the characters. When Mei Changsu and Jingyan were together on the screen, you could hardly look away hoping that this would be the moment that they acknowledged each other. Each achingly painful interaction felt like eternity. At the end, you really could not help but feel for both of these characters. Their bromance and loyalty to each other felt more moving than any romance arc. Other relationships such as the one Mei Changsu has with all the members of his posse felt real and were equally moving. I honestly believe that the most brilliant aspect of Mei's character was his ability to captivate people. With that quality, he managed to use, manipulate and inspire all those around him to help him achieve his goal. The fact that Mei was terminally ill also provided an interesting dynamic to his, at times, superhuman mind.

Another wonderful aspect of this drama was the slew of brilliant supporting characters. Each actor/ actress dominated their roles. The music, camera work, sets, costumes... man, I could go on and on raving about it all. The world of Nirvana really came to life. The only criticism I have is that the ending felt a bit rushed and left me feeling like I needed closure. However, it was a fitting ending to the ride. In short, this is a must watch. Go on. What are you waiting for?

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Nirvana in Fire is by far the best Chinese drama I have ever seen, in terms of quality - there are probably worse dramas that I have been more addicted to, but NiF raised the bar for Chinese dramas and was a great feather in the cap for Hu Ge, who had a phenomenal 2015. This drama takes a lot of the fundamental elements of a historical Chinese drama - honor, loyalty, brotherhood - but injects it with a dose of something extra special.

Story:
I tend to be a little wary with Chinese historical dramas, because too often you get bogged down by all the palace politics and it might be intriguing for some people, but not for me. Nirvana In Fire didn't let itself get fixated on what was going on in the palace - Mei Changsu was the heart of this story, and it's so refreshing to have a drama with such an (actually) intelligent character. I'm hesitant to label this as a revenge story - I actually see it more as one of redemption. Mei Changsu was a beautifully complex character, who was once a noble and upright young man and has been hardened and jaded. That doesn't mean he's lost his moral compass, but he is no longer as innocent, and it's reflected well in how he manipulates the people around him. I loved how deftly Mei Changsu handled every situation - not that Plan A always worked out - but while he always tried to maintain several steps ahead of his opponents, he was also well aware that wasn't always possible. Prince Jing's character was essential to the story, and while I did find his sense of right and wrong tiring at times, it was awesome to see his friendship with Mei Changsu develop. Despite being fifty episodes, there wasn't a dull moment, and the writing was intelligent and well thought out, without being confusing and overwhelming. The direction was beautiful and everything was well shot - it had a very cinematic feel to it.

Also - I actually really liked the fact that the story is not based on real history. It means that the writer has a little more leeway with her characters. I especially love the existence of strong female characters here - one is a detective and one is a general, and they are both so awesome.

Characters/Acting/Cast:
The fanwars aside, this cast was absolutely amazing. I love ensemble casts because the story doesn't depend on one star - instead, they can play off each other and bring the best out of one another. With that said, props to Hu Ge - as someone who has seen a lot of his works over the years (from his very first show to his most recent one), I am astounded by how much he's grown as an actor. This was an amazing role for him, and he embodied the complexities of Mei Changsu perfectly. As I mentioned earlier, I found myself so frustrated with Prince Jing at times, but Wang Kai was absolutely great in the role - even though he played a stiff character, he was also able to convey a lot of the fears and hangups of Prince Jing.

And of course, hats off to the rest of the phenomenal cast - especially Victor Huang as Prince Yu, Liu Min Tao as Consort Jing (though when is she not awesome?), and Wang Jin Song as Marquise Yan. The latter especially actually played a small role in comparison, but he had such a great presence. One thing that the Shanying team has been great in is pairing up their youngest stars with a great veteran cast, and Nirvana In Fire was no exception.

Music: The music that they chose for this show was beautiful, both from a musical and lyrical perspective. I love the fact that Liu Tao, Hu Ge, and Wang Kai all got to sing their own versions of some of the songs - it added a bit of dimension to the music and made some scenes even more poignant.

If you've been burned by Chinese dramas in the past, don't skip out on this one - this is probably as perfect of a drama as you are going to get.

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Feels fortunate to have this legendary cdrama in our lifetime

The story is unlike anything I have ever seen before. Every episode there's something big happening, a character gets unraveled deeper; I felt like I watched years (or even decades)- worth of history in just 50+ episodes.

Admittedly I took longer to finish this because I don't have much patience for slower-paced dramas, much more political ones, but once I got to it I couldn't stop. The first 20 episodes really just lay the foundation (and a strong one at that!) for the next episodes, and hopefully those who plan on dropping this watch at least up until then because not only the action gets going, but we will really appreciate all the work and planning that went on in those "slow" episodes.

The acting is on another level, there are no blackholes. I've watched other dramas before and I also liked the acting there, but here I came to understand that this is what happens when a cast is made up of veteran actors. It almost feels like I am watching actual figures in history.

I hope everyone gets to watch this once in their lives.

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Political thriller/ epic bromance/ comedy/ romance + basically everything good about dramas. THIS is how dramas should be done. Take a peek, other script writers, you might actually learn something.

After a few episode this instantly became my obsession and I finished all 54 episode in 3-4 days. Amazing. Simply amazing, whether it was the brilliant storyline, the inhumanly good acting by the heroes and villains alike, or the astounding cinematography. The music was also so on point I actually want to download all of it now.

The relationships between the characters are heart wrenchingly good, especially the bromance between the two male leads. It might just be me, but I especially liked the fact that the second main lead had no idea the first main lead was his childhood friend and kept going back between distrustful cooperation yet suspicious hope and longing. The bond was very deep and moving, I actually cried at one point, though the last time I cried because of a show was in like... 2004 when a character died in some cartoon and I was 7. The grief and heartbreak they feel is almost tangible, that's how good the acting is. Bonus points for not focusing on the romance part of the story too much as it often ruins everything in other dramas, though with the skill the writers have shown here they might just have pulled it off even if they wanted to take that path.

I also liked how the mc wasn't God incarnate and stupidly good at every single thing. It is established early on that though his mind is extraordinary, his illness gives him an extremely weak body (that doesn't magically become strong because the plot requires it). It develops the character in wonderful ways, where you can see how he has to be extra extra careful to stay one step ahead and protect himself. The moments of illness also make some really good, touching scenes especially to help the bromance along.

One of the things I liked most was how almost all of the characters actually had a brain. The logic behind their actions is (for once) something that actual people would do in their place, not some retarded, half assed hero plan that doesn't sound remotely plausible yet works because hey he's the mc. Everything is just written so cleverly; the characters are all intelligent! We are told the mc is a genius but unlike other dramas where we're told he is one and then he proceeds to act stupidly for the duration of the show, with halfassed plans that work because the power of friendship solves everything, not good planning and strategies, here we have amazing plans, brilliant counters, you can basically feel genius oozing off of him, there's no need for the show to even state he's a genius (tho it does) because the acting and writing are just that good. As a bonus, there are also no dumbass cartoon villains with halfwit subordinates.

Honestly, all in all this was just so satisfying it often had me screaming in glee with my family/friends nearby rolling their eyes and asking if it was that good. The answer is yes, yes it's that good.
So good, in fact, that I rewatched it immediately after finishing it for the first time. It was actually that amazing.

One thing you should not thought is that the first episode can be kinda hard to get into, you really start getting into it by the end of episode 2, and from then on its basically a roller coaster ride of sleep deprivation because your eyes are glued to the screen. All I can say is thank god I only watched after it finished airing, or I would have been anxious waiting for every single episode on the edge of my seat.

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I started to watch this because i was curious why it rated so high. Firstly historic dramas itsn't my thing .
and secondly i dont watch dramas with a lot of episodes, but this drama after episode 6 it hooked me! The plot was brilliant you dint know what to expect ,the acting was so realist in some scenes i could hold my tears.Finally for me this drama was top in chinese dramas.
Please excuse me for my bad english
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