Petit drama sans réel prise de tête.
Lorsque j'ai commencé ce drama, j'étais enthousiaste à la suite de la lecture du synopsis. Je dois dire que le premier épisode ne m'a pas déçu et m'a donné envie de voir la suite =D.Si Tine m'a un peu tapé sur le système avec son égo surdimensionné (Il est pareil dans le roman donc on lui pardonne x'D), j'ai adoré la personnalité de Sarawat. Il semble si "vrai" dans ses réactions qu'on dirait qu'il n'y a aucun "filtre".
J'ai aimé suivre l'évolution de ce petit couple mais également de leurs amis. (Bon "Man" est un peu lourdingue... Pauvre Type :D). Je regrette cependant ce côté "censure" qui donne souvent la sensation que Tine & Wat ne sont en réalité que des amis.
Vous l'aurez compris, j'ai tout de même apprécié cette série qui se passe relativement en douceur et ne vais pas tarder à me lancer sur la saison suivante ! :D
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J'ai découvert WIN !!!!!!!!
Bon, en ce qui concerne cette série je l'ai beaucoup apprécié, j'ai regardé cette série bien longtemps après sa sortie alors j'ai pu la binge watch dans la paix.Tout d'abord le plot, j'ai trouvé ça un peu too much au début mais j'ai vite accroché. Le jeune Tine qui est un vrai bourreau des cœurs, LE tombeur de ces dames se retrouvant harcelé lourdement par un jeune homme et qui n'a pas d'autre choix que de demander de l'aide à la star de l'université. J'ai beaucoup aimé l'ironie de la situation dans laquelle se trouve Tine, lui qui voulait profiter de ses années à l'université pour draguer des filles et s'amuser se voit contraint d'être dans un faux couple avec un garçon.
Le groupe d'ami de Tine est mignon et son très proches les uns des autres, j'ai beaucoup aimé qu'ils lui suggèrent de draguer Sarawat pour se débarrasser de Green (même si on est d'accord qu'il y avait d'autres solutions)
J'ai beaucoup aimé Tine, je l'ai trouvé attachant et un peu maladroit sur les bords, il a une personnalité jovial et est un peu mesquin sur les bords. Je l'ai trouvé un peu naïf de ne pas remarquer que Sarawat le draguait réellement et que ça n'était pas seulement de la comédie. Au fur et à mesure que des sentiments vont naitre pour Sarawat, on peut voir que Tine est un peu perdu mais je dois sire que si il avait pu sortir avec quelqu'un d'autre que Sarawat j'aurai été ravie ! Sarawat est la définition de toxique ! Il est jaloux maladif et voit Tine comme sa propriété ! Je pense sincèrement que Tine aurait pu trouver bien mieux que lui mais ce n'est que mon avis.
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Ahh... Je sais pas ou commencer cette critique... Bon j'imagine qu'une petite mise en contexte ne serait pas de trop X).. Je ne regarde pas des BL depuis tres longtemp, les seuls que j'ai vu avant 2gether étant Why R U et TharnType.. Il y a peut etre des critique qui auront des explication avec le genres, donc je m'en excuse d'avance. Maintenant c'est partit X)
2gether me faisait vraiment de l'oeil, il avait de beau acteurs, un scénario qui semblait sympathique et je me suis naivement dit que j'allais retrouver une histoire d'amure passionée comme dans TharnType et Why R U... Mais non .. Les premiers épisode était vraiment prometteurs. J'aimais l'alchimie que dégageait les deux acteurs. et bien qu'il y avait quelques petits point illogiques (Green qui apparait que lorsque le scénario en a besoin ou meme Sarawat qui se fait frapper parce que des meufs on like ses post IG ...) j'appréciais et je passais un bon moment.
Mais la qualité a vraiment décliné... Je pense que c'est quans Tine Et Sarawat se sont mit en couple et ont eménagés ensemble (c'était d'ailleur plutot précipité '-') A partir de la il y a plusieurs problemes.
Deja dans le scénario qui n'avait plus rien a raconter, le rythme qui etait plutot long et qui me faisait parfois passer des moments beaucoup trop long.
Et en fait je pense que le Couple principal avait des problemes. Deja tout simplement parce qu'ils ne se font pas confiance. *début du SPOIL* Par exemple avec Pam ! Je veux dire ce n'est qu'un calin. Tine a juste fait des conclusions hatives alors qu'il savait tres bien que cela fait un an que Sarawat l'aime et qu'il a fait tout les concert de Scrubb pour le retrouver. Si c'est pas la preuve ultime que Sarawat est fou amoureux de Tine... (Par contre la scène ou il pleure, l'acteur a vraiment bien joué) Et ensuite, a quel moment tu vas faire confiance au premier gars venu qui t'avait déjà draguer '-' J'ai un gros probleme avec ce moment parce qu'il aurait suffit de se parler pour regler le malentendu :-: (je deteste quand les problemes sont juste un probleme de communication entre les personnages '-') *Fin du SPOIL*
Aussi, le couple principal n'avait pas l'air amoureux. Ils avaient plus d'alchimie lorsqu'ils n'étaient pas en couple... Il n'y avait non plus pas du tout de contact entre les deux, rien meme pas des calin lorqu'ils dorments ensemble ou un petit bisou le matin ;-;. Quand je me dit que je viens de Finir TharnType avec un couple avec une alchimie à couper au couteau, des magnifiques scenes ensemble ca me met mal :-:...
Les acteurs n'étaient pas à l'aise ensemble et ne degageait des vibes de couple. Aussi bon acteurs sont ils je ne ressentais pas d'amour entre les deux. Ce qui est vraiment dommage lorsque leur couple est le centre de l'intrigue...
Je vais légérement passé sur les deux autre romance. Celle de Man et Type m'a dé cue. J'aimais bien au début comment Man avait eu le coup de foudre, mais a partir du catfish pour pouvoir le voir, je n'ai plus du tout approuvé ses techinques...
Pour Mil et Phukong c'est pas top non plus... Phukong m'a fait tellement de peine ;-;... Pour moi il aurait du avoir plus de devellopement et éventuellement trouvé un autre garcons avec lequel il se serait rapproché et aurait oublier Mil ..
Bref je trouve ca plutot dommage qu'un drama qui avait si bien démmaré ne se finissent comme ca.... Je pense que certains pourrait aimé mais ce n'est pas le bl que je recommaderais le plus ;-;
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2The first few episodes seemed to deliver on the promise. In my rush to judgement on MDL I even posted an early rating of 9.5, in part because I wanted other BL fans to know that this was worth a look.
The series started out by exclusively taking Tine's POV, allowing Sarawat to develop as a character who was at times funny, charming, prickly, seductive, and above all, unpredictable. It was mainly because of Sarawat's interactions with Tine that the first few episodes of '2gether' were so enjoyable.
Then, about halfway through, '2gether' took a wrong turn and never found its way back. Around this time in the series Sarawat and Tine finally became boyfriends, and along with that the two boys took the momentous step of moving in together -- sharing an apartment, a bedroom, and (of course) a bed.
Now, the definition of 'boyfriend' can vary from person to person and even across different cultures, but for most of modern civilization, when two people are romantically involved to the point of living together, certain assumptions apply. One of those is that the relationship has evolved to the point of physical intimacy.
Once Sarawat and Tine had advanced past the flirting stage and become a couple, this became '2gether's' biggest problem. From that point on, one detail after another clashed with the everyday experiences of everyday people. While cohabitating, the boys would share the bed, but they slept fully clothed and never cuddled. They would stand together romantically under a starry night sky and not put their arms around each other or hold hands. They would comfort each other with words but not with a warm embrace. And a kiss, even a quick peck on the lips? Not happening.
The bottom line was that despite being two college-age guys in a m/m relationship, Sarawat and Tine showed no signs of sexual attraction. In fact any physical contact between them came off as awkward and uncomfortable. Somehow, whether at the behest of GMMTV, the director, the actors, or some element unknown, the decision had been made that despite Sarawat and Tine's boyfriend status and shared living arrangement, there would be virtually no displays of affection on-screen.
It was a wacky decision, and it showed in the final product. Time and again, a scene between the two guys would work its way to a point where the mood was clearly set for a moment of physical affection (whether it be an arm around the waist, a held hand, a tender hug, or a kiss), and '2gether' would veer away at the last second, often resorting to a substitute gesture that was more suited to best buds or actual sibling brothers. The substitute most frequently used was a pat on the head from Sarawat to Tine (which with each occurrence looked more and more condescending), but sometimes they didn't bother with any substitute at all. A scene would just end.
This is simply not how real boyfriends interact, and I think it's safe to say that everyone knows it, even adamant supporters of the series who have defended it for its 'purity' (as though the purpose of '2gether' was to depict a divine love unblemished by anything as sordid as hand-holding.) When a work of fiction deviates from commonly perceived reality without first establishing a believable reason for doing so, viewers get confused. When it happens over and over without explanation, viewers get frustrated.
What bothered me personally was that I sensed an agenda at play. I grew disillusioned, and found I was now watching each episode mainly to see how they'd keep screwing with reality. Along the way I noticed that Sarawat wasn't so endearing anymore, and Tine had become a paranoid bundle of nerves who forgot how to smile. The joy I found in their relationship -- and in the series -- was in ashes. When the final episode approached and the script deployed the trusty "ex-girlfriend who's still in love" trope to stir up some drama, the result just lay there like the stupid and insulting tactic that it was. You can't revive a patient who's already dead in the ICU.
By this time I'd finished mourning the loss of what '2gether' had started out to be, moved past my anger and resentment, and settled into amusement. I looked back on how much I'd anticipated the series and laughed at how I'd been fooled. This was a production presumably written and directed by experienced professionals who are familiar with the BL genre. It was mind-boggling how they'd squandered the fantastic beginning and ended up with something so phony and awkward. For me the plot had gone completely off the rails, so whatever story the series was trying to tell didn't matter anymore. What I became most curious about each week was how they'd finally pull this mess into the station, and what kind of shape it would be in when they did it.
And the way they ended it, of course, was with the high-five between Sarawat and Tine that has already gained near-legend status. I must admit that this was where the series, which had already established itself as a mockery of BL, proved it could still surprise me. It was as though the production team had gotten together to brainstorm and find a way for '2gether' to deliver a final, unmistakable "F U" to fans of the BL genre -- a gesture guaranteed to become the ultimate meme.
In this I think they succeeded, but it makes me fearful over what GMMTV will do with their future BL productions.
ACTING
In general I think the actors did a fine job with the script and the direction they were given.
Win's work as Tine deserves a lot of praise since he had no prior acting experience, whereas almost all of the rest of the cast did. His first foray into a series was a tremendous success for him personally and promises great things for his future career.
Regarding Bright, it's hard to tell if Sarawat's detachment and wooden affect was a result of Bright's inability to act or the fault of the director. Given the way the entire second half of the series was botched by the director, it wouldn't be a stretch to blame him for Bright's performance, at least in part.
That said, I get the sense that Bright did not enjoy being in a BL series. He was smart to agree to it because it provided the perfect target audience to rocket him to fame. (His previous acting gigs didn't result in anything close to this fanbase.) From here I'll be surprised if we ever see him play any other role other than a heterosexual male. And honestly, that's fine with me.
MUSIC
Scrubb! Awesome band, great songs. You don't even have to understand Thai to feel what the lyrics are saying.
I suspect that Scrubb might have also written the song that plays over the end credits of each episode, sung by Bright. It has their vibe and Bright does a nice job with it.
I'm not a fan of the song sung by Bright that was released as the series ended, but this opinion is probably tarnished by my disappointment over everything else.
REWATCH VALUE
I will never rewatch this series. While the beginning episodes are wonderful, there'd be no way to enjoy them knowing what comes later. In fact I'd probably start to pick apart the good episodes too, looking for hints of the lameness to come.
THE 'PORN' DEFENSE
A lot of diehard fans of the series have defended it by saying that anyone who criticizes the lack of physical affection between the leads is looking for a series that depicts explicit sex.
All I can say is: if this is your best argument then you have already lost. Nobody in their right mind wants explicit sex or porn in a BL series. When you have to misrepresent an opponent's argument in order to counter it, you're only saying that you don't have an intelligent response to what they are actually saying. You are admitting defeat. You are admitting that '2gether' is a failure.
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My review is a personal opinion on the drama. This is not meant to be a review that sways anyone. If you are unsure about watching the drama, don't look to reviews to help you make that decision as we all have our own personal likes and preferences. How do you completely ruin a drama that started off strong?
Answer:
By giving us characters that had more chemistry when they were "fake dating" than when they were truly dating. By using women as plot devices to create drama and jealousy. By giving us a couple that doesn't communicate and understands that there will be times when their relationship will be tested, but that they can overcome that. By dedicating more time on the development of the side stories (Mil's crush on Tine, the fights that had little to do with the couple, Wat's Alphaness)
Lack of real intimacy between a couple that is supposed to be "in love"...
I have stated before and I will stated it again (especially since I am an ACE) I don't care for the kisses or the sex , but these two characters behave more like brothers than a couple. Depicting a couple in love doesn't mean having them do sexual things. It can be shown through different forms such as, both couples cooking together and talking about their day, doing something that creates a mood but doesn't mean they jump each other's bones. Comforting one another when one is feeling down (which reminds me, Sarawat not comforting Tine and actually turning his back on him and going to sleep, came across as a man who is tried of the relationship they are in. That was so weird). Instead, we have Sarawat just "patting" Tine on the head. I get it different cultures have different forms of expression when it comes to love, but that patting on the head is akin to an adult infantilizing another adult or it comes across as condescending "oh there there." It is bizarre how these two had more of a couple chemistry when they were fake dating than when they got together. What an amazing feat! [sarc]
And I will repeat this again....the fact that we have had a rinse and repeat story line the minute that Tine and Sarawat got together (Mil chasing Tine, Wat now with Pam) is lazy script.
This drama had a lazy script, had characters that de-evolved instead of evolving (Tine taking on more female characteristics "ukeness", Wat becoming some spineless idiot by not putting Pan in her place right way) The story was choppy due to editing in many episodes and it just didn't flow well.
I really liked the first five episodes, I thought the story was promising and while it did have some flaws specially in the editing, the drama just got worse. It's a shame really cause it could have been so nice.
Music was great though...and Gunsmile is always a great comedic character (saving grace in most episodes LOL)
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This series is over rated and disappointing.
Don't get me wrong I love the actors and the first half of the show. I even re-watched the first few episodes just to ease the pain of waiting for one whole week for the next episode. As I said, early episodes were good. I thought they had chemistry and spark. The plot was also good and promising BUT.....As the story progress it also lost its spark. The plot became repetitive, the side stories were set aside, the conflict became lame, the character development was nowhere to be found, in short the script/screenwriting became too dependent to the popularity of the show and the visuals of the actors. If the actors of this show were not good looking, this will be criticized heavily but since they are both handsome and popular, the bad storyline and acting was overshadowed.
Not to mention that they neglected the second main lead of the show which is Drake and Frank. They were literally set aside. It was so bad that it felt that they were just used to make this a BL series.
The chemistry of the early episodes was lost due to lack of character and relationship development. The last four episodes made the characters look and act too straight to be gay. They looked like friends and not a couple. The actors are too reserved to be called as a couple. Ironically this series lost its spark when the two main leads became a real couple. Sad that they are more in love when they are fake dating.
I was expecting more from this because it came from the director of Kiss Me Again and was written by the author of Theory of Love. Now I feel bad for Jittirain, the author of the novel, because this series messed up her creation. Unfortunately it did not live up to its popularity and standard. They can't say its because of COVID19 like Why R U?, because this was pre- produced and they have already finished filming the entire series, so I think there can be no excuse to all of its flaws.
The last episode DID NOT save this series at all. It even made it WORST to the point that viewers felt the awkwardness of the main actors, as if they don't like touching each other. The ugly directing and the story that sucks can no longer be tolerated. Sorry for using this kind of words but this is the best way I can describe what happend to this series. One comment even said, and I love how he described the ending, confession in front of an audience doesn't make it extra special.
The actors made it so obvious that they don't like to act as BL couple at the same time the director and script did not help them with making them look like a BL couple. It was a sub par acting (though I am trying to let it pass since this is Win's first series and Bright's first BL role). I think the actors should reconsider accepting BL roles if they are not fully committed to it because even if you are a good actor but you are doing something against your will, it will always show. The director, producer and screenwriter should also try to reflect what went wrong.
I remember the actors of this show said that love is just love. I agree. Love is something you can show without the racy gestures actually love is best shown with small gestures. The bad thing about this series is NOT the lack of intimate scenes but the LACK OF LOVE in their supposedly real relationship.
Things that are good in this series? Well, this has good OST (except the TINE song, it was meh) and the early chemistry but other than that, it was just a series about two handsome guys that was said to be boyfriends but act like buddies.
Not all trending series are good and even if the actors are good looking and lovable doesn't justify the bad screenplay and execution of the story.
This is a very disappointing drama.
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Let me start by telling you all that this is a bromance, not a romance.The story starts off really well and then just turns into something that isn’t romance or friendship. There is no affection showed and hardly anything romantic ever happens. Not even a date or movie or romantic meal.
The last episode was possibly the biggest let down. The ending was, for lack of a better word, blah! It’s not about skinship, the lead characters behaved like they liked each other but not like boyfriends. Tine cried like a baby over something that was hardly serious. Sarawat was bold and consistent, but Tine had zero trust or faith. One hug and the world ended for him? He ran straight into the arms of another man? Refused to listen to reason. That’s a middle school drama, not college level drama. Oh and the high five ending was just so bland. Gah!
Phukong was so desperate he wanted Mil even if he was only a second option. Mil would try to date Tine if he won the contest or would have to date Phukong if he lost. Wow! How romantic! That’s who’s dream? That’s sad and pathetic, and no one deserves that.
Thank god for Man and Type. They were the only characters that made me happy. The one true couple in this drama.
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Let's start with the positives:
Episode 1 to 4 were perfect in my opinion. Episodes 5 to 7 were also good, episodes 8 to 10 were kind of hit and miss, but still had a few memorable scenes.
At the beginning, the chemistry between Wat and Tine was palpable. The longing stares, the shy looks, the secret smiles, even the head pats were successful in giving me so many feels. It seemed like a simple story, lighthearted, funny and romantic. The story was moving smoothly, didn't feel too rushed. It made me look forward to Fridays.
I also love the OST. Thanks to this series, I got to know Scrubb. I love their songs and I think they were used effectively in the series, especially in the beginning/middle part.
Initially the acting was also really good. Sarawat's aloofness and Tine's energy were portrayed very well. Win, especially seemed very natural despite this being his debut.
The negatives which quickly made me drop the rating from a 9 to a lowly 5:
Starting from episode 8, problems with the writing, direction, and editing became more obvious. it always felt like they were stuffing too much into each episode. Episode 11 to 13 were probably the worst episodes I've ever seen in a BL. They were disastrous.
The outline of the story is good enough. But the plot moved through every single cliche possible: Unnecessary drama from ex-gf, multiple jealousy tropes, stupid misunderstandings, possessive bf trope, 'fragile uke' who needs protection, etc etc.
The drama/conflict was dragged out till the very last episode, making the end feel very rushed and unsatisfactory, just hastily tying up all the loose ends. We never get to see our couple be happy in their relationship, they always had problems. I lost faith in their love after they got together. I was no longer invested in the characters.
The characterization was not uniform throughout. Both the main characters were behaving unlike themselves in the later episodes.
Secondary couples had very little development. Maybe with more attention they could've added more to the series. In the beginning when the main couple was great, they felt unnecessary. Towards the end when the main couple was bromancing instead of romancing, I wanted more from the other couples.
The leads had more chemistry during the 'falling in love' phase, with loving stares and shy looks giving the audience so much feels. But after they actually become a couple, the chemistry just vanished. Their hugs and headpats became awkward. They were more like bros,actually in the final episode they were more like strangers than even bros. Even after they reconcile in the end, it's hard to believe in their love because there was such a dearth of intimacy.
Though the acting was decent at many points, towards the end it became lazy, repetitive, and cringey. Bright especially looked like he was uncomfortable with his character.
This series has been such a disappointment. I feel so betrayed because I was so into it at the beginning, really rooting for the characters. Hence the ranty review.
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Guys, pals, fam. Where do I even start with this mess.
The BIG ASS issues with this drama are:
- Toxicity
- Nonsense (both for the story and the characters)
- Lack of Consequences
(- Editing too but not as bad as the rest)
Let's start as usual with
GENERAL
• NO COHESIVENESS WHATSOEVER
1. Character's personality, their relationship, and the situations in general happen/change however and whenever the plot needs them to.
Ex.
a. Sarawat & Tine's friends become friends but then they're rivals but then boh
b. Fangirls hating on Tine but then suddenly shipping them together with no apparent reason (it's not character development, sorry)
c. Green appearing and disappearing accordingly to what the story needs
I could go on but this review is already going to be long as it is.
2. Double Standards.
A big point in the TOXICITY issue is how relationship are represented.
Green stalks and harasses Tine, in the EXACT SAME way Tine does with Sarawat at the beginning, or Man does with Type FOR THE WHOLE TIME, or even PhuKong does with Mil.
So why is it that when it's Green the one doing it, it's annoying and "dangerous" (Tine's words) and we hope he stops, but when it's the rest of them it's funny and/or romantic? That's NOT how it works!
• GIRLS REPRESENTATION
Three (3). It's the number of girls with an actual working brain we get to see during the drama. The rest of them (A LOT) are either weird (Tine's exes), a brainless screaming crowd or become brainless screaming people the moment Sarawat appears.
It's just really sad.
• EDITING
It's really confusing sometimes. It's not easy to understand if you're watching a flashback, a dream, the present, the future or what.
Also. I'm sorry but I HAVE to mention this. THE SEQUENCE OF TINE SEEING SARAWAT EVERYWHERE IN EP 7.
That edit is just HORRIBLE.
Tine sees Sarawat everywhere without a real reason, without a good bgm emphasizing the process of Tine realizing and coming to terms with the fact he misses Wat, without even having the time to reflect on it. It's just bad.
( My Engineer did a way better job in the same situation, but the "missing" was about a frogging gift box. I feel ashamed in behalf of 2gether ' staff, honestly)
• ACTING
.... Y'all remember Sarawat used to smile too, right?
WHERE TF WAS IT IN THE LAST 6 EPS??
Especially when with Tine I remember seeing it maybe once, when they were both on the couch while Type was "sleeping" in the bed.
That's it.
I honestly don't know what happened to Bright, or to his acting coach for him to have almost for the entire second half of the drama this sort of facial paresis.
Maybe it's just that they didn't get the note that while the drama progresses and we get to know him better, he should start showing MORE emotions. But okay, whatever.
I kinda liked Win tho, especially the emotional scene in ep 10. That was good, and a cute scene as a whole.
I hope they'll both get to improve and act in other series in the future.
Gunsmile and Taptop the gems of this series, bless them.
• GENERAL NONSENSE
to name just a few examples:
1. How Sarawat says in front of Green & screaming fangirls that he and Tine are only friends just to tell later in the same ep that he likes Tine. In front of Green & screaming fangirls
2. Sarawat not letting Tine talk even if he's supposed to be secretly in love with him already
3. Whatever happened in the bg during Phukong's interview in ep 5
4. Sarawat beaten up because some girls liked his ig posts??
• TOXICITY
Direct consequence of the "double standard" problem I talked about, or together with it, is the narrative this series is normalizing:
"No doesn't really mean 'no'. They're just playing hard to get, and if you keep doing whatever you're doing they'll eventually love you back"
Do I really need to say how wrong and creepy and dangerous this belief can be?
And not just that. There are a number of bad behaviors normalized. Stalking, harassing, catfishing, getting drunk WAY too often...
CHARACTERS
• Tine
He's often showed as just dumb. And that's really sad. Even the time he cut the pick in half, it would have been so easy to make it an act of ingenuity to affectionately make fun of in the future but the way it was shown, it just made Tine look stupid.
Also there is no character development, all his flaws are there for the whole drama.
Ex. He was selfish and irresponsible when he paid Phukong to go somewhere else, and again later when ditched the music club because he didn't need Sarawat anymore, and when he went outside alone in the dark during the trip ecc.
At least he's coherent I guess
• Sarawat
Complete opposite to Tine, he changes his behavior CONSTANTLY.
From distant and reserved, to affectionate and clingy to distant but also flirty to caring to uncomfortable...
It's a rollercoaster and it doesn't have a logic development
• Man
I hate him and I'm not even sorry.
Helps Wat getting Tine drunk, stalks Type and keeps following and harassing him even after Type VERY CLEARLY tells him he's not interested, catfishing him in the meantime.
He's not a good character.
• Type
He deserved better. I knew he would eventually end up with Man, but he really deserved so much more than a liar creepy stalker as love interest *sigh*
• Gunsmile and the rest of the friends
I don't even remember their names, that's how important they are in the show.
Tine's friends especially don't really do a lot, except maybe constantly going after girls and sometimes randomly giving an advice that the plot needs to "develop".
They also don't have any consistency in the way they act, but I blame this to the writing of the plot more than to them as characters.
• Mil
He doesn't have the space he needed. For Tine and Sarawat, he is an asshole that keeps bothering someone who already has a bf and doesn't know when to stop.
But he also seems to have morals and be kind. No space to develop it tho
• Phukong
Another stalker in the series.
Doesn't really have a plotline besides trying to become Mil's bf
• Green
Green doesn't make sense as a whole.
I appreciate having a semi-good representation of a "feminine" gay, even being seen as strong when he goes against Tine's masked friends in ep 1
But... He doesn't want anyone to know he's dating P'Dim but he has no problem to follow Tine everywhere being super loud and direct? And if he broke up with P'Dim for 2 mins ecc... Why was the whole question still going on in ep 7?
Last point.
RELATIONSHIPS
• Sarawat/Tine
I have no idea where their chemistry went from the moment they became official. They look progressively more awkward and uncomfortable being around each other. To the point where they seem to be almost forced or in pain when together, and far more comfortable and happy with their friends. Hello?? Aren't you supposed to be a new couple who just moved together (way too fast too, if we have to be honest)?? Where is the intimacy? The tension? The love??
They also have NO communication nor trust.
In ep 12 for ex. First Sarawat turns his back to Tine even while being well aware of him feeling upset. Then he reassures him the following morning, just to act suspicious and hiding things from him immediately after. And don't let me start with how Sarawat with the help of his friends makes Tine get drunk so that he can post a suggestive pic on Tine's IG to declare to the world he's taken.
Should that be romantic? Cause it's NOT. It's creepy and a BIG red flag.
But as with everything else, this action has no consequences.
Like when Sarawat promises not to let their friends know they're together yet, but announces it to them 0.3 secs later instead. Or really anything. No consequences at all.
• Man/Type
I won't repeat the whole "creepy obsessive stalker" thing, but let's talk about how the infamous dinner went. Type tried to tell Man not to go, but Man completely ignored him (as per usual) and decided to go. During the dinner he talks about Type and tells to Type's coworkers things it's absolutely not his place to tell. He doesn't know if Type is friend or even comfortable with them. It's so disrespectful towards Type. After that, Type STILL tells his colleague to stop when he was making fun of Man and tries to protect him.
And people hated on him because he left with his co-worker. OKAY.
(I think he should have walked home or taken a taxi and left them both there)
EXTRA
They are red sometimes when drunk. I promised to give extra points for this so here I am.
And another one because they wash hands after using the toilet.
I appreciate the little things ?
CONCLUSION
What can I say. This drama started up in my top 10, but from ep 4 on it started going down. A pity, honestly. Especially because I love the "fake bf" trope.
Even putting the toxicity aside, the complete lack of consequences for literally anything that happens completely destroys any tension even when you are supposed to feel it. And things keep happening without a real reason, completely random.
I honestly have NO idea what show the people praising this, the acting, the story, the relationship and so on are watching, cause it can't be the same.
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HIGH FIVE TO THE FACE!!!WITH A CHAIR IS WHAT I NEED!!
I honestly am too drained to write out my disappointment! So much wasted! As a Novel reader, this was such a slap to the face or should I say HIGH FIVE to the face!! The first episodes were good and then everything just derailed after they became a couple! Can't even blame Covid-19 because they finished before the lockdown thing. The ending was such utter disrespect to the source material..I can't even rewatch it.. the novel was so good! How do you mess up this much.. Win was adorable and he portrayed Tine well, including the insecurities, Bright however.....No comment
Wish my boy Gunsmile had more screen time. He actually made some scenes bearable...
This wasn't a romance story, this was a weird friends story! Not even Bromance. Atleast Bromance compels you to ship the couple, SaraTine just bored me in the last 3 episodes..
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Complacent writing ruins the ending to a show that had a great potential!
I was intrigued by the 2gether series because it had a great start and avoided the common trope of pairing a very "flower boy" uke and "macho and strong" seme. I also liked the pace that the drama was maintaining with the leads quickly recognizing their feelings for each other. There wasn't much of the usual struggle to come to terms with their sexuality that most BL's grind to the bone.But it all started going downhill quickly -halfway through, the pace just goes all wrong. The writers can't blame having only 13 episodes to show a meaningful progression in Tine and Sarawat's relationship. I've seen shorter BLs (Because of You) that were not constrained by the available screening time.
Sarawat and Tine moved in together almost immediately after starting their relationship, and that's so farfetched to me. Not only they didn't show a decent "dating" period but the leads started acting like an old couple that's been living together for 20 years or so. But they certainly don't have the maturity that comes with such a long-term relationship.
Contrived arcs to "separate" and put obstacles in the lead's relationship, zero trust in each other and abysmal communication skills leads them to the mandatory trope of breaking up just before the finale. But not to worry, they still their HEA within half an episode with not much explanation as to how they resolved their problems. -_-
I'm seeing a trend where most BLs are just taking the viewers for granted - casting good-looking leads and writing arcs with so many plotholes and tropes that they just churn out one BL after another expecting that the "fujoshi" audience will consume whatever they throw out either ways.
Writers, please have a little more respect for your audience and don't just focus on the aesthetics.
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The lack of affection is sad
Not a fan.Bad bits:
1. Tine and Sarawat - might be the least convincing romantic pairing I've ever come across. Before becoming an item there was (a little bit of) potential, but once they got 2gether they displayed zero affection- it was bizarre. Are they supposed to be in a loving relationship at the end? If so that makes me sad! I liked the actor who plays Tine but the actor playing Sarawat sneers a lot, gives off an arrogant vibe and seemed uncomfortable in the role.
2. Bit troubled by the portrayal of Green's character (rapey, or what? the one "obvious gay" character doesn't need to be forcing himself on frightened straight men...) and how he was treated (like shit). It is a light-hearted drama but that was a bit of a dodgy storyline- and just inserted as a device to get the leads to fake-date.
3. The music is not my taste.
Good bits:
1. Fong [Tine's friend] - for no particular reason - he just seems a sweetheart.
2. Man [Sarawat's friend] - he only had 10-15 mins on screen but made a better romantic lead than Tine/ Sara.
I should have stopped watching a third of the way through - I stuck with thinking it would get better, but it never did. I saw reviews for "still together" declaring it an improvement, and I'm a glutton for punishment so gave it a go. I thought it was marginally better, but not good enough to stick with so I dropped it (very proud!) before finishing the first episode.
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