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Mild, very mild
It all starts off with big promises. Lots of chemistry and innuendo between all cp. Fireworks in the making for sure!... But no. After all that all we get are covered, quick, fake kisses, about 1,5 per cp. Making me feel cheated and disappointed. Don't do this to us, creators! We need mature relationships since these are adults. At least follow through on the chemistry, since now it just empties like a punctured balloon.So. In S2 you will do better, right? That is what you promised. It's just that so far this promise also seems to be empty.
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Watch it for the side couples !
Well, let me tell you ! if you have watched a few thai bl series, you can easily get disappointed and discouraged by the very first scene. The main couple's storyline, Bohn and Duen, is pretty normal and actually includes a lot of cringe moments(sorry).But believe me, I watched the whole series (skipped many parts) for the sake of the side couples, Ram and King, Boss and Mek.
The chemistry and plot of these two were much better and i hope i don't offend anyone by saying the first two main actors could do better ! their love story didn't even feel real and I think there were many more ways to develop the relationship between Bohn and Duen, Duen being rather submissive and obeying for no reason while Bohn is that possessive easily-jealous dominant boy who enjoys bossing people around and thinks it's a way to show affection.
FOR THE SIDE COUPLES, it was way better! Ram and King's story was not that remarkable but was actually satisfying and their acting skills made things much more enjoyable. The same goes for Mek and Boss.
I am still wondering that why they have dubbed Mek's voice. Like, he didn't have that much of lines and am sure he could pull it off by practicing it a few times ( he is chinese) and the voice didn't fit his appearance and I am sure that if they would've used his own voice, things could be better.
Overall, DESPITE the main couples being a tad undeveloped and raw, I enjoyed watching RamKing and MekBoss parts.
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Mucha química pero poca trama
No voy a mentir, he visto muchos BL de Tailandia y en la mayoría (al menos hasta ahora, porque parece que están cambiando un poco) hay unos cánones básicos y este no es la excepción aunque aquí se pasan. Que el Seme sea celoso y posesivo, lo veo normal en estas series, pero ¿qué le pasa a Bohn? es tóxico como él solo. Siempre esta enfadado con Duen, tratándole con desdén y siempre fingiendo estar enfadado con él para que el otro le pida perdón continuamente. Esta claro que Bohn no esta enamorado de Duen, al revés no lo sé, pero lo de Bohn es obsesión o ganas de ganar o algo.Las parejas en general tienen química, salvo la de Maek y Boss que ni veo química entre los actores, ni me ha interesado su historia, además la trama de la serie es muy aburrida, ¿alguien puede decirme de que va? es que no lo he pillado xD
En fin, hay BL mucho mejores que este en los que, al menos, no habrá personajes que te den aversión.
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Great BL and some laughs, but...
I am writing a review about this series almost two years later, oh my. Anyways, I do have to admit, when I watched this series, it was only a little bit after I started really getting into BL's. I discovered this BL off a glimpse, not really expecting to watch the whole thing. Yes, just like many Thai BL dramas, there were many cliche moments that got frustrating. Like the basic "oh you kissed him, now I am going to be upset, and you have to come over and make this big apology explaining everything that happened to lead to that moment." Yes all those type of cliche moments. Sometimes they're really great in BL's and help add character development between each other. But other times it is just boring and annoying.I would have to say that the main couple got annoying after a little while. I really did like them in the beginning, but towards the middle and the end it was getting frustrating. They didn't really have the connection I wanted. There were too many moments where it was just awkward between them and nothing was happening, almost like the camera was idling there and they had no lines. Was the chemistry great between the actors? Of course, but the characters Cooper and Poy had to play together were just not there for me. There were also a lot of moments where the characters really overthought things, and that was very annoying. I feel the only couple who didn't create a lot that commotion, was RamKing's couple. In my opinion RamKing was my favorite couple in the series. They were the only reason why I really continued to watch the series. They had that great chemistry, and also had many times where they could open up to each other in the series. They showed what a real relationship can start off to and excel to become better. Was there a little cliff hanger with them though? Yes, and it wasn't that enjoyable. Ahhh, same for Mek and Boss. They were a pretty good couple, but once again, it was the cliche moments that really got me. Of course Boss had to secretly be in love with Mek, but also have to be into this one girl that he really didn't want to be with. It took so long to see anything happen between these two, and honestly it was upsetting. Like yes, the had their nicknames of wife and hubby, or at least something along those lines, but it just didn't really create anything until the near end.
To add, Frong and Dr. Thara, really ended nowhere in this series. It was more of a Bromance than it was of anything else. I really wanted to see their story show up. That is another reason why I continued to watch this BL. I wanted the series to really show more of them, and how they would've ended up together, but they didn't. Both Frong and Dr. Thara, were scared of admitting their feelings for one another, and it got to be frustrating. They could've even at least had one of the cliche Thai kisses, where one of them falls on the other and then lips touched, that would've even made me happy. But they didn't even do that. I honestly wish I could've seen more of them but we didn't.
I got to say, the amount of intimacy in this BL we got, was very little. Now I don't ever watch BL's for intimacy, I am more there for the chemistry and story line. But only like a few kisses happened in the whole series and it wasn't until towards the end, and yet for some of the characters nothing ever even happened to go further. It either left a little cliff hanger or really not much about the couple. I don't care if there were any bed scenes, but at least a genuine kiss that was good for both sides would've been great, because then you could've really seen how the couple felt about one another. Mind you RamKing had a great kiss, and you could see the emotion and feelings they had for each other. Honestly, I was really looking for genuine, sincere emotions and connections between each character but it just wasn't there, and it made me sad.
Now if I move onto the set up of the BL. It was based just like many Thai BL's, takes place at university and they're either in engineering or medical. I really get annoyed with that type of genre in many Thai BL's. Do some of the BL's do really good with that type of setting/genre? For sure! But for this one, it really didn't work for me. I didn't really enjoy the set up of the BL and wished it could've been much better.
To wrap things up, I honestly would recommend this BL to someone who is just getting into it, but for someone who has been watching for years, and knows what they're into, maybe not. Unless you like the cute goofy stuff. Now don't get me wrong so do I, but this one just wasn't what I was hoping for. I really just wanted more for the couples. Also like many of the other people have said, this series could've been wrapped up into 10-12 eps at most, but it was really stretched and it started to get boring. The scenes were longer than they needed to be and could've just got summed up. I was a little bummed out about this series, and wished it could've been a little better since the director of this series also did Sotus. I just wish there could have been improvements and more of a connection with the couples and even characters.
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Bohn and Duen were definitely the funniest couple at first. Sadly, their storyline went downhill after a while, though their massive problems ended up actually being useful for character development. Personally, I wish Bohn hadn't been so volatile, but it was good seeing Duen's character stand up for himself, being both strong and soft.
Ram and King were very cute! I liked their storyline, through all its ups and downs. It was very hearttouching and beautiful.
The best couple was Boss and Mek. In the end, they were the couple I was rooting for the most while watching the drama. They're a good example of the best friends becoming lovers trope.
The ending theme song by Ton Thanasit is so romantic! It's the perfect song for a romantic comedy. I wish P'Ton sang more for dramas!
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Main characters don't make sense!
I honestly wanna ask one thing (why are bhon and duen the main couple) they have a good pace at first then its all ruined by their slow pace and lack of cute moments like rest of bl series, where main characters/couple have cute moments which makes it lively to watch.After watching the whole thing i can say KingRam and BossMek deserve main couple role. They had the best screen time and moments in the entier series and only these two couples made me excited to watch next episodes. Even as supporting characters they had such life in their relationship then main characters.
Series isn't that bad its good, just that main couple wasn't that appealing may be thats how this story was meant to be🤔 not sure hut still mek was the best over all woth his performance
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My engineer; a series that's quite cheesy and cringe, but sometimes enjoyable.
Hi friends! This is my second time watching this series, and there's quite a lot to discuss so let's just get into it, shall we?STORY
Uhm okay. So I wouldn't say that it's everyone's cup of tea, but there are still some good parts if you know where to look. As I said, this is my second time I've seen this series (this time with a friend) and I enjoyed it much more with someone beside me to discuss the story with. Sure, there are some parts that we laughed and screamed of joy at, but also a lot of scenes that I wanted to skip. The storyline is cheesy and problematic, just in a boring or concerning way.
Couple number one: Bohn (the big baby) and Duen (the one that always says he's sorry)
First of all Bohn. He's pretty controlling, always angry and toxic. Like, he gets jealous ALL THE FUCKING TIME and it gets annoying after the first times of him dragging Duen along and trying to kiss him just so he can whole that he "owns" him or something. Then there's Duen, the sweet baby who always wants to do the right thing, cooks for his boyfriend and tries to take it slow. This boy just wants a life where he can hang out with his male friends without getting dragged along by his boyfriend that wants him to explain himself and then kiss him. Like how would even stay in that relationship?
Couple number two: King (the plant boy) and Ram (the doggie boy). My babies.
These two should really sit down with Bohn and talk to him about trusting his boyfriend, taking it in his time and respecting his life where he wants to have friends. King respects Ram, helps him and tries to comfort him but NOT asking him like it's a fucking interview. Just like Ram says; King understands him. Ram is this really focused on his task boy that doesn't want to talk to EVERYONE. He's caring for those he loves and wants to protect them from all harm. When you get to know him, you know you've found someone special that's worth your time and loving. Even though this couple is not official (yet) you clery see that this is going to evolve into a great relation in season two.
Couple number three: Boss and Mek. The husband and wife since ages back in time.
Well well well. First of all, poor these boys. I mean I wish they had told each other about their feelings at day one. Mek is crealy missreble with Boss dating someone else in the start of the series. I know that's a part of the story but i would rather have seen them being this couple from the start. And its kinda creepy yet sweet with Mek and his wall of fame portaing Boss and their friendship. Plus; they go from zero (aka friends) to lovers in a minute...?
Couple number four: Frong and Thara. The couple that has not quite started yet.
It's sweet, but I don't understand the fuss about it. That FrongThara and RamKing would be the ones that everyone's there for. (please don't hate me for this tho) I mean, almost nothing has even happened - but I guess that's something for season two.
Final words of this little rant; I'm mad that they made Ryan have a voiceover (he who plays Mek) just because he can't Thai that well. They could just have announced that he was a forgien student and that he was learning. And I hate that they had that typical stereotype thing that always in gay relations: "Im not gay, I'm just in love with *name*..." - like why canä't they be pan/bi if that is so important? Why making them a straight that's in love with one boy?
ACTING/CAST
Not that much to say about this but, the overall acting was sweet but not that good and belivbale. Let just say its certainly not one of the best I've seen in the BL drama community.
I have nothing against the actors, however some of the cry scenes and the love scenes dosnet work for me. But yeah, I'm quite harsh when it comes to this just because I feel this is the most important part (plus the story) to make it great.
I was glad to see that I didn't know any of these actors from any other series, because that usually fucks with my head haha. And also, Perth's (potraing Ram) acting was one of the best in this series. I love his way of showing Rams personality and you can see that he knows his character very well even though he's the polar opposite of Ram in real life.
MUSIC
They are constatly using the same music over and over and that annoys me a bit. For example, when its a sad scene it's this piano melody and when its a dramatic (even tho some times it's not, in my opinion) there's this action song. But sometime it was well needed to make the mood right however they maybe could have had more traks to use.
REWATCH VALUE
I'm probably not going to watch this again, if not with a friend. I just keep waiting the RamKing edits on youtube and are happy with that. Maybe even one or two MekBoss ones too.
SOME LAST WORDS
The summary: I would say that if you're really bored or looking for something cheesy and with some quite disturbing plots, yeah sure watch this. But its not a "Trapped" or Until we meet again" quality in this series. (actors, music, story) But theres some worth watching parts (aka RamKing) so yeah, watch it for those two.
- samuel <3
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Worth watching once and hoping for the sequal
I liked this show, but more in the beginning than the end.Is it really so that seeing someone getting a forced kiss results in breakup scenes? The writer and/or director should think this through more, I hate to see people getting depicted as light-headed simpletons all the time.
Next, what is with the sniffing? Is making sniffing sounds the new kissing? It is called a BL-series, but sometimes it feels like it is written to keep the main characters apart, not getting them together. Duen is cute, but if was together with Bohn I would not hesitate to kiss him.
The main save of the show is Cooper (Bohn) and I think I'd watch just about anything with him in it, he's a natural.
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i'm sorry.
this was my second thai BL, i enjoyed it at first, but soon i was more interested in the side couples than the main couple. they lowkey disappointed me to be honest. i got more interested in ram (and his family situation) and king, so im glad that they will be the main focus for season 2, it was perth's first series, but he did really well!! love perth and talay's chemistry <3i did rewatch it, only for the ramking scenes though. the story became kinda boring to be honest, however this is just my opinion so if you like it, that's fine!
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It all makes sense now!
I'm always probably more lenient than the average viewer when it comes to any movie/series, and in particular, Y series. I don't have to dissect absolutely every little detail, nor do I need to consider if something is realistic or not. If I get pleasure out of watching, whether it's the story, the characters, or the actors' performances, I can overlook things I may not consider realistic, or not the 'norm' in the real world. I can determine the difference between fact and fiction. Just because a movie/series is about, for example, zombies and ghosts, serial killings, drug use, or science fiction and super heroes, doesn't mean we can't enjoy them, Even if a series really is awful, and I don't come across them often, I always consider the amount of effort that went into the production, whether that's the actors' hard work, or the production itself. This is not a criticism of anyone else's opinion, by the way. Having said that, there were things about this series I didn't like.I liked all the couples, even Mr Controlling, Bohn, and the ever sweet and innocent, Duen. I would hope that a season 2 would see the progression of all the couples, but also mellow Bohn a little. Boss was a little too annoying at times, but again, I hoped that he would become more playful rather than constantly annoying in S2. I really wanted to see Thara and Frong advance their relationship too. King's sister and the 3 schoolgirls were hilarious, with their wild imaginations concerning RamKing, and exaggerating the facts - and I'm guessing, a little dig at the 'typical' BL fan. I also wanted to see Ram's father get his comeuppance in S2, for the awful betrayal of his family. The highlight for me was probably the final episode and the kiss scenes. I have to say that Perth really stole the show, and his kiss was one of the best in the the 'innocent' BL category, second only to SantaEarth's kiss in their 7 Project series episode. Unfortunately, Talay's initiation of said kiss, was very awkward, and he looked like he was in pain!
The story was fine. Not the best, but certainly nowhere near the worst, with a lot to commend it. I enjoyed watching the actors bring the characters to life, even the annoying ones, and was surprised to find out that Rice, who played Tang, is actually an acting coach. I would like to see more of his acting - I know he's in Step By Step, but I haven't noticed him yet. I'll just have to re-watch the episodes to date and see if I've missed him.
I found the music a little annoying at times, but that's just my personal opinion, though I did really like that pretty song that was used at tender/sweet moments. If I find a particular song that I'm not fond of for whatever reason, the constant replaying of it ruins the whole soundtrack for me.
I'll definitely re-watch ME again - I'm currently binge-watching ME today, for probably the 3rd or 4th time, and there have been some unexpected revelations...
So, now to the much anticipated season 2... I loved Ryan Peng in the part of Mek, but we all know he was dismissed from the show, even if we don't know the real reasons why. We know that Ryan and Intouch were friends, and I really don't like the idea of a new actor playing the part of Mek. On the whole, I hate substitutions in series - I find that they rarely work. I don't think that not including Mek would work either, no matter what reason f they would try to use to explain his absence . One thing I didn't like about how ME was filmed, was the use of dubbing for Ryan's lines. It would have been more preferable to me, to have allowed him to speak in Chinese and simply used Thai as well as English subs for his parts - it was obvious he wasn't speaking Thai, so why try to hide it? In We Best Love, Yu's character and 'his father' occasionally spoke in Japanese, but it wasn't an issue. As long as actor can convey his character's emotions, I don't see an issue in letting him speak in his native tongue.
We all know that Perth has left the company, so again, no Ram, or the possibility of a replacement actor. I seriously doubt he would be involved in a S2. I think we were all a bit shocked at his departure, but it all made perfect sense to me today. I came to MD to check out the actress who played Ram's mother. Although we got to hear Perth's and Dylan's English accents, it was obvious that she was not Australian, whilst of course, Perth so obviously grew up in Oz. It probably doesn't matter to anyone else, but I was just curious to see if I could work out where she came from - she sounds European to me, but she isn't listed here. It was whilst I was looking for her, I saw who the screenwriter was. Yes, it's the infamous Poi, one half of the writing team of KinnPorsche. This could be the reason why Perth chose to leave - we all saw his reaction to the writer's interactions with Barcode... If looks could kill! So if the series went ahead as scheduled, or was still on the cards, i can totally understand why Perth would not want to be involved. Currently, there has been no word on whether or not we'll actually get S2, but either the Build/Poi incident has forced the company to put the series on hold - whether it's completed or not, or Poi's involvement as (I assume), S2's screenwriter), has forced the company to cancel S2 altogether. I fear that there will be no S2.
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Pomyłka w aktorach
Seria opowiada historię popularnego studenta inżynierii Bona, który postanawia się zemścićna studencie medycyny pierwszego roku Duenie, który uderzył go w twarz ponieważ Bon zbudził
go z drzemki. Codziennie przez miesiąc Duen musiał przynosić jedną czerwoną różę, którą
kupił od dzieci stojących przy drodze, by dać ją upartemu studentowi inżynierii. Tak oto
czerwona róża stała się symbolem miłości. Mimo iż są główną para,
seria opowiada losy czterech par, oraz ich drogę przez przyjaźń i miłość.
,,-Dręczy mnie to. Czuję się udręczony, rozumiesz!
-Przeze mnie?
-Tak. Ponieważ czuję się przy Tobie dobrze. I to mnie nieustannie dręczy. Zdajesz sobie sprawę, jak bardzo muszę się powstrzymywać, kiedy jestem blisko Ciebie."
Mek i Boss z dramy My Engineer Oceniam tą parę i ich historię na 8 na 10.
Historia była dość ciekawa, bohaterzy nie irytowali mnie wcale a do końca
nie byłam pewna jak skończy się ich historia. Mek którego gra Ryan Peng skradł
moje serduszko i bardzo mi się podobała jego gra aktorska. Mam
nadzieję że jeszcze zobaczę go w jakieś ciekawej produkcji
King i Ram to moja ulubiona para z dramy My Engineer. Oceniam tą parę 10 na 10.
Bardzo podobali mi się od samego początku oboje. Ich historia najbardziej mnie urzekła i
stali się moimi ulubieńcami. Bardzo dobrze do siebie pasowali.
Następna para z tej dramy. Bohn i Duen byli parą, która moim zdaniem była ze sobą na siłę.
To znaczy szczerze nie widziałam między nimi uczuć żadnych. Źle zagrane, historia oklepana
a Kritsanapong czyli aktor grający Duena bardzo mnie irytował.
Dr.Thara i Fong również są z tej dramy. Mieli zbyt mało czasu razem w porównaniu do
pozostałych par ale mimo to lubię tą parę. To jedyna para która mogłaby być najbardziej
stabilna w
przyszłości. Pasują do siebie, nie irytują i powoli zakochują.
Całość taka sobie. Gdyby wyciąć głównych bohaterów na pewno byłoby przyjemniej na to patrzeć ale powiem skrycie, że czekam na 2 sezon. Poczekamy, zobaczymy jak to mówią...
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okay...?
Could have been better, but based on the reviews I read, it was better than expected, but the acting was so bad at times, and always bad when it came to some characters. I guess I've grown to expect more with the dramas that are coming out "now" but "now" is literally 1-2 years after this was released.SPOILER: I loved the Mek/Boss story, right up until Boss was like "me too" to Mek's confession and we're all were like HUH? So what was going through your little brain when you were torturing Mek this whole time by "pretending" to be girl crazy?! NO this is just a huge stupid plot gap!!!! This is probably what I'm most mad about, because there was almost any other way that they could have written Boss and Mek's story, and it would have been better or at least made more sense. GODDAMMIT.
So Mek and Boss is the only reason I can give the show an above average score. And Duen's smile.
However, I will give Bon/Bohn credit only in that his actor was probably the best actor besides TING TING. LETS HEAR IT FOR TING TING. I'll put Boss and King right behind them. Like I'd like to see Boss in something else.... with Mek... getting the storyline that actually does them credit. EVERY OTHER ACTOR (even mek half the time. Like why was his voice dubbed?) DESERVES A 1.
No toxic relationships. Bon just has some jealousy issues that hurts everyone, but is just something he should probably go to therapy about. It's so sad when "no toxic relationships or behaviours" is something you have to laud in a show wholly about relationships. C'mon BL. @#$%^&*
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