Ton Hon Chon Tee (2020)

Muy buen drama

No entiendo mucho las otras reseñas, pareciera que no entienden la trama. Para comprenderlo hay que hablar que en Asia, y Tailandia no es la excepción, la homofobia es muy grande y además se le pone un peso muy grande a los hijos quienes deben ser de tal forma para no deshonrrar a los padres. La homofobia real es la del padre de Torhon, lo de este es una forma de lidiar con sus verdaderos sentimientos y lo que su familia le carga sobre sus hombros. Por lo que he leído de Tailandia me animaría a decir que es bastante real esta situación, como así el hecho de que muchas parejas se arman por comodidad (o conveniencia) y no por amor real. De lo que si peca (al igual que todos los BL Tailandeses) es de poner un universo gay muy amplio en familiares/amigos/compañeros cercanos, de los protagonistas. La serie hasta ahora (Capítulo 6) está bien tratada, con humor y actuaciones creibles (cuando se entiende el contexto social de donde viene, muy diferente del de occidente).

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Mixed Emotions

I just finished watching the last episode. When the trailer of this series came out I was so excited to watch it because it kinda gave the impression that it's a cute-sweet-romantic vibe plus the fact that I love and adore all the actors in this series. Now don't get me wrong, I still think that it is a cute-sweet-romantic vibe, it's just lacking something. I felt it was rushed to the point that the episodes were not seamless at all. Let me get down to why I rated this series as such.

STORY: So I rated this 7/10. I think the storyline was promising. Only if there weren't that many awkward cuts. It wasn't seamless. It's like grabbing bits and pieces from different storylines and putting them all together just to create a series. It would have been nice if they had a clear definition between a homophobe and someone who's not sure of his/her sexuality. It was my impression that Tonhon was a homophobe but in actuality, he wasn't. It just came out like he was. There were a lot of twists in this series some of which were in the last episode.

ACTING/CAST: Rated this 10/10. I loved all the actors in this series. I've seen them in different BL series that I have watched. I'm glad that Khaotung was given the main lead role. I first saw his acting in 2gether and I really thought that he deserved a main role so when I saw the trailer I was so excited for him. Pod's acting in Dark Blue Kiss was far better than in this series. The jealousy kind-a-thing doesn't work for him in this episode because it came out as though he's a homophobe, when in fact he was just jealous. My favorite BL couple Mike and Toptap are still adorable. I wish that they would have their own BL series. Their acting is very much at par being the supportive, naughty, mischievous kind of friend.

MUSIC: I love the OST that's why I rated it 10/10.

REWATCH VALUE: I was at a loss for this one but I rated it 5 because I think for some people it'll be rewatchable. We all have different opinions, different personalities, and different likes. For my taste though, I'd probably rewatch it when I'm bored or if I want to see Mike and Toptap's cuteness again. So it's 50/50.

OVERALL: I'd give this series 8/10 because there were lessons learned. Lessons intended not specifically just for the BL community but for all of us. Learning that whether you were just dared to do it or forced to do it. Cheating is still cheating. If you are in a relationship don't put yourself in a situation where you may be labeled as a cheater even if you had no intentions of doing so. Apologize, don't makeup excuses even if you were forced to do something. Man up to it and just apologize. We make our own choices. Regardless of the situation, know and understand that you made a mistake and apologize, it's not hard to do. As parents, we can't force our children to become who they're not. Parents should be their guide, yes, but it doesn't necessarily mean that parents are always right. Nowadays, producing an heir can be done in so many ways. Why are there some people who are so adamant about it?

This series has a lot of good things and a lot of not so good things as well. It could have been executed nicely. The story could have been refined even more. Overall, with the cast that this series had, the storyline could have been better.

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Well, it wasn't as bad as I thought it might be, but I'm not sure that it means that it was good, either.

Things I loved: Na and Miriam.

Miriam was a joy and lit up the screen every single time she was in a scene. She made me laugh a lot. This is the second thing I've seen Jan in and the second thing she's been a highlight of.

And Na was hands down my favorite character in the entire drama. He stole the show from his very first scene. I have to say that I have not given Neo enough credit even though I have seen him in several things by this point. But after watching this I am a fan. Na was a general blast and also an unexpected sweetheart, and I shipped him with Chon to an insane degree. Now I want a Khaotung/Neo pair up because their chemistry is very good and I think it would be fun. Maybe they can have angry makeouts in Only Friends? As a treat to me specifically.

Things I liked: Chon, Prang, Ai & Ni, Chon's mom

This was a fairly decent friend group. I liked that Ai and Ni understood and stuck by Ton even when he didn't especially deserve it, and I love how fierce Chon's mom was in defending her son, and how little she cared that he was gay. Petition to keep casting Khao in roles where he has a great relationship with his mom, please.

One thing I was a fan of was that Chon had a spine in him. So often when you get these pining romances the piner lets themselves be pushed around for love, and it always annoys me. I like that Chon didn't let himself get walked all over. Good.

Although…to be honest, I felt like both Ton and Chon were kind of nothing characters. Oh, both actors did what they could with what they were given (I have never seen Pod in anything else, but Khaotung I know is excellent so I blame neither of them for this), but they just…weren't given all that much. Despite the story being about them, I honestly felt that characters like Miriam and Na got way more development. Hell, even Ton's sis and her hubby got more than I felt Chon and Ton had. It was especially annoying in Ton's case, because there was a lot to work with there and I do think, based on what I was given, that the actor could have handled a more nuanced character. I feel like the main problem with this drama is that it didn't know how to walk the line between comedic an serious, and a lot of potentially good story was lost in the process.

Things I did not like at all: the attempted SA plot and the way that it happened and then was never brought up again (and also the way that Amp was somehow made out to be worse than the dude who actually tried to SA Chon, like he gets a free pass on that because oh hey, she really is a homophobe after all. No, sorry, both of them were vile) and the whole dad and babies thing. I also kind of hated that the second dad gets his way he's suddenly all remorse and solicitude.

The last thing that really rubbed me the wrong way was Ton kissing Amp as some sort of proof that he's still a man or something? What? Not only was it completely inconsiderate of Chon and his feelings (and good on Chon for directly calling him out on that part because what the hell, my dude?), it's also completely nonsensical. I get that it all tied back to Ton's ideas of what makes a man and the way he was raised by daddy-o, but again, the show did nothing with it. It felt like in the end it was just there to cause some drama and give Ton a reason for his big "I've loved you all along" confession, and honestly there are other ways we could have gotten there. As it was it just made Ton look like a meathead who would go around cheating whenever someone challenged his precious manhood with no regard for what it might do to his relationship.

I can't say I regret watching it, but I can see why so many people really don't love this show, ha. For me it was middling, and the problems outweigh the good points, so I probably will never find myself with the urge to rewatch. I am not what I would call a connoisseur of the best BL - I have been known to adore trash and I make no apologies for it - but this one just didn't manage to hit enough correct notes for me to remember it with fondness, nor enough bad ones to make me mad enough to remember it for that reason.

In summation, this is a show that exists, and I'll probably forget it in an hour or two.

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Character opinions

Most of the characters were bland, especially Amp.
(Don’t get me wrong, the acting and cast were amazing, it’s just how the characters were portrayed.)
(This is just my opinion.)

Ton:
During the scenes where Na is “hitting” on chon, they try to make it as look as if Ton is jealous, and just wants to push Na away from Chon. But really, Ton just sounds angry, like he isn’t fond the the queer people.
He isn’t willing to learn, he sounds and acts very narcissistic and kinda brainless. from what I’ve seen in his character, the way he says homophobic things, assumes, etc.
The last episodes he FINALLY realizes he likes men, wow. WHAT A SHOCKER. it’s like only portrayed in that span of minutes he finally realizes he likes Chon, isn’t that annoying? Like of course, we all knew Ton like pd Chon, but Ton didn’t realize until the LAST episode. Which is like WTH???

Chon:
he’s okay, I liked his character in the first few episodes until he got a little annoying.
The way he kinda forced Ton into his sexuality is… ehhhh… ya’ know..
Overall, he started off good, but kind of eh at the end, he isn’t bad, but he’s aight.

Nai & Ai:
Don’t even get me started on these two, the fact that they have been standing there, listening and watching Ton say these homophobic things, not saying anything to stop him.
They literally don’t do crap when their friend (keep in mind, CLOSE friend,) are saying all these homophobic things.
Therefore, toxic.

Amp:
She sucks and no one can rlly tell me other wise,
Very bland, she’s like almost all girl antagonist.

Na: he’s the only character I liked, honestly. Although at first impression he was overconfident, may self centered, etc. and of course, he was planning on flirting/hitting on Chon. but as we go along with Na, he isn’t a bad person he even encouraged Ton.

Miriam:
I’m so sorry, but I honestly forgot about her character, I mean she definitely game some plot, but personally for me she was forgettable. And don’t even get me started with that end twist, not cool.
Overall, she’s a mediocre character, i eh-like her.


Overall, most of the characters were sucky. The plots, plot twist, story etc were handled poorly.
Would not recommend at all.
I literally got bored after 4 episodes. I can’t believe I powered through all 10 episodes.

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The things that should have been addressed... but were instead ignored (no hate, just my opinion)

I loved the story between these two, but some things needed to be addressed, such as; One, the fact that Ton was so homophobic and his Dad only accepting him if he promised what he promised in episode 10. Second, Chonlatee almost getting raped in the bathroom and no one talking about it or even comforting him (because he's a man which in this situation gender shouldn't matter) and Chonlatee's character accepted it so well... But he literally would have been raped if Ton hadn't gotten there in time. I feel as though in reality Chonlatee should've been more shocked, more overwhelmed or fazed by the fact that he would be taken advantage of... instead it was used to propel the story into Chonlatee and Ton's relationship. I loved the actors, the story itself was beautiful, but there are a lot of things that should have been talked about or at least mentioned once after it happening.

Like how goddamn stupid it was for Ton to do what he did in episode 9 (you'll see) and was shocked when Chon didn't believe the excuse he gave. I know it was only 10 episodes so they didn't have much space for too much detail and I loved the show, I expecially loved Ton and Chonlatee together. Episode 10 kinda bullshitted, though, with what Ton agreed to (despite being so young) and that Chonlatee was ready to go along with it (I understand that it was the only way for them to be together, but c'mon, I would have liked a conversation about it at least) with more space and more detail the story would be over the top, but I think the actors and humor saved it. The scenery was nice, as well. Please don't come for me, I'm not judging you for watching this show or wanting to watch it because it is a good show and very funny, if you like humor and cute moments along with a shirtless Pod (the actor of Ton) then go for it and enjoy it. This is my opinion and you may not agree which is okay, please just watch if you really want to. Make up your own mind about this show or just decide not to watch it, stuff happens. Bye!

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I laughed with gusto many times. How to perceive this series must be in the person himself (he must understand Asia) to distinguish the subtlety of the playback here, which is brought here in a spicy form deliberately sometimes to the point of pie creation and complements the overall comic, from some other Asian productions, where naivety, the snobbery or the twistedness is too much for non-Asian viewers. Those who don't get it will condemn the series unnecessarily, but that's their business, not mine. The main thing is that everything has not slipped into a set of "western" sitcoms, when the viewer is "forced" to laugh at every stupid thing in the form of constantly imposed "laughing viewers". Here, the viewer is left with room to consider how to react. This excellent Thai part just ended in January 2021 and I can only write that it was a really nice experience.
Both main characters here are very original. A frail and youthful looking Chonlatee and a sporty type Tonhon with a chest tattoo (which has a meaning in the story - Navigator vs. Ocean). In addition to light entertainment, deeper thoughts also appear in the series, e.g. in one of the late episodes, Chonlatee's mother Nam literally flashes in an argument: "...BETTER TO BE HATED FOR WHAT YOU ARE THAN TO BE LOVED FOR WHAT YOU ARE NOT... .” and I also appreciate the overall message, the attitude towards men who like men, which certainly has an impact on the audience.
The two other gay characters Ai and Nhai (Ni) are also excellent, and the girls Miriam and Pang also contributed to the good fun. There are quite a few fans of these series here at GT, and I definitely recommend this piece to them.

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Depois do review, passei a gostar

Assisti essa série quando lançou, em 2020, e assisti super ansiosa por cada novo ep, já que a série foi muito aguardada. Confesso que na época me decepcionei bastante, não foi o que eu havia idealizado, e somado à isso, a crítica negativa sobre a história estava em todos os lugares, de forma absurda. Terminei, gostei do final, mas não foi uma das minhas preferidas. Agora, em 2023, decidi rever a série numa maratona, e como normalmente acontece, mudei totalmente de opinião sobre tudo. A crítica mais contundente na época do lançamento era sobre o personagem do Tonhom, que era homofóbico, e eu como parte da comunidade LGBT me senti bem chateada com esse personagem. Hoje vejo como fui infantil na verdade. As séries são histórias de ficção, mas que retratam coisas do cotidiano, e INFELIZMENTE a homofobia faz parte do nosso cotidiano, por mais triste que seja pensar e dizer isso! Entendi que a ideia da série, era mostrar a evolução do personagem, que no final de tudo virou um gado apaixonado do Chonlatee, que virou o jogo com gosto. Dito isso, vamos às minhas percepções.

O enredo da série é engraçado, e os atores fazem humor muito bem. Tem muitos clichês, e todos gostosinhos: o casal apaixonado desde criança, sendo que um aceita e o outro mente pra si mesmo, família homofóbica querendo herdeiro, ex- namorada surtada, amigos super do bem. Cada personagem tem sua história independente, e suas histórias todas se interligam entre si, fazendo a série ter coesão. Nai e Ai são "amigos" que em segredo são amantes, justamente por saberem que Tonhon é homofóbico, ou pelo menos demostra ser (essa parte precisa de uma explicação mais elaborada), isso foi algo que não gostei de início, achei um absurdo amigos viverem se escondendo de um outro amigo, era como se estivessem apoiando a homofobia deles. Mirian, que em sua primeira noite no bordel acaba conhecendo Ai e Nai e se salva de virar prostituta. Apesar de toda a carga de humor da personagem, não pude deixar de pensar que essa deve ser a realidade de milhares de garotas por aí, que por falta de dinheiro e oportunidade tem esse destino. Na, que de início eu excomunguei, mas depois entendi que ele tinha um coração enorme, e suas atitudes eram como uma defesa do mundo, que talvez não tivesse proporcionado a ele amigos de verdade, sem interesse em sua riqueza. A irmã de Tonhon, que graças a Deus era a lúcida da família, e seu problema no casamento, que confesso não saber se realmente existe tal transtorno, mas se existe, que bom que foi abordado. A ex de Tonhon que é o estereótipo criado e alimentado pelos BL's durante anos, da ex namorada raivosa. Não gosto desse clichê, e no caso dela ainda existia o agravante dela não amar ele de fato, tinha apenas interesse em seus bens. O amigo da ex, um cara totalmente sem escrúpulos, tenho um ponto positivo e outro negativo sobre a aparição desse personagem: O negativo, é que não percebi ninguém recorrendo à justiça depois que ele tentou ESTUPRAR Chon, isso é totalmente absurdo e super comum em BL'S, totalmente inaceitável. O positivo foi ver ele provar do veneno da amiga, quando percebeu que ela não agia por amor e era totalmente homofóbica, e ele como gay que era, sentiu na pele. Os pais de Tonhon que sinceramente, são a personificação da sociedade homofóbica! Ora, como queriam um filho de outra forma, se ao perceberem a orientação sexual do garoto a coibiram de forma que ele nem percebeu, de todas as formas possíveis? incutindo em sua mente durante toda a vida ideias machistas e preconceituosas? Além disso, o pai extremamente machista, parece achar que as mulheres são incubadoras, só servem para gerar filhos e pronto, não gostei da naturalização disso. Sobre Tonhom, é perceptível que ele não é homofóbico, ele finge pra si mesmo ser, e acaba externando isso para o mundo, como se estivesse o tempo todo em uma briga contra si mesmo, e que bom que ele perdeu a briga e se entregou ao amor. Achei fofo quando foi mostrado que ele sempre gostou de Chonlatee e percebeu os sentimentos dele, e que fez de tudo para tê-lo por perto, mesmo tentando fugir de sua sexualidade. Quanto à Nam, olhei e gritei: perfeita! Mãe exemplar, pessoa maravilhosa, melhor sogra e disposta a brigar com o mundo pelo seu filho, capaz de gritar e exigir respeito quanto à orientação sexual dele. Melhor pessoa!!! Talvez por isso, Chon, apesar de ser fofo e inocente, é forte como uma rocha, íntegro e não leva o desaforo pra casa, ele é morde e assopra na mesma proporção.

Sobre os aspectos técnicos, eu gostei da atuação, da fotografia, da ambientação, das locações, a única coisa que não gostei foi da ost!

Resumindo, depois de rever a série, mesmo admitindo que existem pontos negativos, com certeza passei a gostar mais dela, e com certeza recomendo!

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must watch

even tho it has bad reviews i think it was underrated many people where not able to understand it. it's just your normal childhood friends to lovers series. but much better because there where lots of other aspects the second lead couple was also good and much better then many series i have watched of that year. then it's up to you but in my view you should give it a try

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The funniest BL I have ever seen

OMG. Like what in the world? I just saw the second episode and I almost peed my pants.
Thanawat is the funniest actor I have ever seen in a BL and only the look on his face will make me laugh out loud.
I have to say that I started this series for Pod / Ton and I am not disspointed, altough I read some bad comments. But is not the actor to criticize for his part, just the writer. But I like a lot his character. I believe almost every gay guy is in denial at first. It is not an easy choice to reveal your feelings for same sex and to openlly get criticized for...being gay. In our society, unfortunattly, the LGBTQ+ comunity has a bad image and the traditional family seems more normal in people's eyes.
I will give this series till now (2 episodes) a big 10 and I will be surelly blown away later. Pod is a great actor and we will surelly see this later in the next episodes.
But for Thanawat .... Is there a 10*****? This guy is brilliant.
P.S. There was a scene with the arrogant guy that I played it on repeat 10 times or more and couldn't stopped laughing.
Probablly this is the first series that I can't wait to see what happens next and I saw almost every BL that exists.

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Don't waste your time on this

Typical homophobe guy ending up with another guy plot. Even though it's cliche I still considered this because there are lots of homosexual people out there who try to act like phobes in order to blend in to the society. It was still no less annoying. This is the basic plot for the main characters Tonhon and Choatee. But what was more annoying than this is, the character Miriam.

Ai and Ni as in the second couple are boyfriends and they hired this Miriam girl in order to pretend both Ai and Ni's girlfriend so that their homophobic friend as in Ton who lives with them at the same house doesn't get suspicious of their relationship. Seriously what was this? I get that they are friends but do you really need to be friends with someone who won't accept your sexuality? To go this extend? No, you don't need them.
And the awkwardness between the Ai and Ni character my Lord GMMTV reslly needs to stop casting them together. Even though they did more than one project together they are still awkward.

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