Awesome drama
1st don’t pay attention to all the negative reviews! I almost passed this up due to that fact and boy am I glad I did not. I watch Kdramas all the time so I am not new to this. Forget that it has some cliches in it and just watch it as a stand alone drama and you will enjoy it. Forget that the ML seems cold and stuck on himself at 1st and take into account his childhood. EVERYONE did a fantastic job of acting, the OST was very good and I personally liked the plot but know I am a complete romantic at heart so I can also sympathize with the FL and her emotions. 2nd FL was a bit annoying as to how she treated the 2ML sometimes but still could not dislike her just wanted to shake her at times. Last couple of episodes are tear jerkers but the ending wrapped up nicely. Bottom line, this might not be for everyone but it most certainly does not deserve the bad reviews it has gotten, I loved it! Take the time to watch it.Cet avis était-il utile?
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Una serie che mette sul piatto il "poco" e il "già visto", tirandolo per le lunghe
Occorre armarsi di una buona dose di tolleranza e tanta pazienza prima di iniziare a guardare questa serie. Quando assegno valutazioni alte a drama senza pretese e che sanno di già visto - cliché compresi - lo faccio perchè comunque fatti molto bene e quindi coinvolgenti da guardare. Quelle alte valutazioni acquisiscono senso se paragonate a di serie come "More than friends", che si pongono gli stessi semplici obiettivi ma non raggiungono nemmeno quelli.Tutto già visto, ma gestito anche male. Ci sono solo 16 episodi - davvero tanti, troppi in questo caso - in cui lui, lei (e a volte anche l'altro) si rincorrono a vicenda. Quando a lei piace lui, a lui non piace lei. Quando anche a lui piace lei, a lei forse piace un altro. Quando lei ci ripensa, poi lui va via. Quando lei va oltre, lui torna indietro. E via così...per ben sedici episodi, nessuno - purtroppo - escluso.
Ripeto, mi va bene il già visto, ma con l'aggiunta di nuovi dettagli, qualche elemento caratterizzante e stimolante, non si chiede molto. Invece questa serie si concentra unicamente sull'improbabile triangolo amoroso e le varie rincorse tra di loro.
In virtù di un paio di scene comunque emozionanti, non tolgo la sufficienza. Ma non vado davvero oltre.
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very nice
drama molto carino, mi è piaciuta la storia, romantica al punto giusto , anche se a volte la protagonista mi ha fatto uscire fuori di testa con i suoi comportamenti alla fine incomprensibili e forse, un po' forzati...è un dramma che secondo me, merita di essere guardato.very cute drama, I liked the story, romantic to the right degree, even if sometimes the protagonist drove me crazywith his behavior ultimately incomprehensible and perhaps a little forced..It's a drama that in my opinion deserves to be watched
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Love or hate
Honestly this drama isnt for everyone. I personally think most people watch dramas as an escape, and this drama, for me personally talks about really real and possible situations.It's honestly a very slice of life kind of drama and to a lot of people, that may be very slow or boring so if you don't like those then this drama definitely isn't for you. It's definately a slow burn kind of drama as well.
Yes, some parts are very exaggerated and some parts may not make complete sense but overal i think this drama touches on different kinds of relationships in life, whether they're bad or good.
I read in the reviews that a lot of people hated the main male lead and wanted her to end up with the second lead, but i personally thought he had one of the best character developements of all the many dramas ive watched. And because of the slow pace of the overall drama, it didn't feel like he just suddenly changed or anythjng like that.
I personally felt that while i did get tired of the main's back and forth near the end, overall it was pretty enjoyable for me. The acting was great and most of the actors and actresses had amazing chemistry with each other.
I think this drama is one that if you do decide to watch it, you should watch it with an open mind and in the mindset of the characters rather than a viewer. That'll make the experience much more enjoyable.
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☂ Drunk Dialing 4 Dummies ⛈ Dysfunction Under Inspection ☂ °7.8° °Excellent°
Spoilers are clearly marked and at the bottom.Witches brew: These 3 friends are cursed!
Wu-Yeon(Wu) the 'ex-collector', says she's cursed to be forever trapped in a 1sided ♥️ w/ Su, despite days, mos, years~> Despite the /decade/ that's elapsed. She seems composed, but when alcohol pours in, emotions pour out into Su's vm. Wu has a most-of-life crush on Su, who has declared them to be in friendzone⛔️… more than twice, or thrice (or double on ice) for a full decade. Su drops into town & mixes her up, only to exit without leaving a gratuity. That forever leaves Wu forlorn & in need of liquid relief, which leads to slurpee vms on Su's phone. She's a serial drunk-dialer, & her friends are so hungover it. Su might be their friend, but he drags the party down.
Yeong-Hui(Hu) grew up poor, w/ no advantages behind, & only struggles ahead. She's been cursed to a life of toil, poverty, & unworthiness. Hu is 1/2 of the couple mixed within the group. She and her BF struggle to face life's hardships and muddled family pressures, while trying to stay strong together. The only true struggle is that Hu refuses to accept that the man she loves can truly accept her: She's too poor and her family is always in trouble: She will only drag him down, she'scertain.
Jin-Ju(Ju) is cursed as well: Never to know ♥️. Ju struggles with loneliness. Her life, without love, is a drag.
MTF pulls up a chair alongside a band of boozers & toast the twenties. Wu, Hu & Ju were fused 🔗by combat in the HS arena. Now it's 10 years post graduation, when everybody thinks they have it figured out, but virtually no one does. They're learning to navigate adult jobs, situations and relationships. The 3 girls have a lifetime bond from their early HS years, so when Yeong-Hui pairs up with her BF, his friends come along as chasers to round out a 6-pack: 1 couple + 4 drinking buddies.
This brings us to now. Su is back in town, and once again sends signals to Wu that appear encouraging (is it finally happy hour?), only to flip the table on her once more. Again. As soon as Wu moves on to someone else, Su suddenly declares feelings for.... Guess who.
Their stories dial-in to several themes, including:
☂ Scars from thoughtlessness
☂ Pain's effects on emotional health, incl toxic Parent-child relationships & self-inflicted wounds
☂ Surviving 1sided♥️ - They all go through it
☂ Faulty suppositions - recheck yours every 5 years or so. They can't all be right.
☂ The sinking loneliness of selfishness vs the buoyancy of generous & committed ♥️
MTF also offers paths to resolution: L♥️ve is opening, giving & accepting. Maturity is learning to be unselfish, even when it hurts. Especially then.
For a few episodes, it was difficult to tell if it was worth the wait for last call. There were a generous pours of quality exchanges, metaphors, quotes, ironies, basically the usual for the better Kdramas - The ones they do well are outstanding, if not superbly divine. 75% into the show, I had only been looking at it through narrowed eyes in low light, waiting for the moment a glass would shatter and MTF would be easily swept away & forgotten. However, by ep15, I felt like a regular with the gang at the pour-it-all-out-house. Unexpectedly, real tears started flowing. Inner conflict overflowed next over the proper rating: 7? Am I looking at this thru the bottom of the glass? An absolutely stunning conversation put the answer into focus - MTF has buoyancy. It is refreshing, and it dazzles when it catches the light.
There's a spill of latent (submerged) emotions in MTF's examination of the 3 women and the challenges they stare down from across the table in their quest for: Love, financial independence, and the most elusive honesty-to-self. MTF opens their circle and invites the viewer in. Like with any relationship, the show leaves room to allow the viewers to drop in and raise a glass, even though we must hold back the urge to smash a soju bottle over some noggins.
This is more of a drama than a romance, and it is a worthy one. The cast is smooth and fluid; not a sour in the bunch. Ong Seong-Wu exhibits a truly great performance as Su. Be prepared for the slower cadence with anything that helps bring relaxation, and watch them blend, stir, and shake their lives.
〰QUOTES〰
Words are like boomerangs. The come back at you. (Aigoo. HEAR, youngins!)
Emotions are determined by the person on the receiving end. (Isn't perspective & timing everything?)
I'm afraid you will use the wounds you received as a shield & grow up a warped adult.
Back views are the saddest
〰IMHO〰
🎬7.5 🎭7.5 🖋〰 8 (This is the writer's 1st credited work, so we've been promised future brilliance) 💓7 🦋5 🤔8 🌞5 🎨7 🔚8
Age 15+
⚠️SPOILER SECTION⚠️
Before the next round, let's sweep away the broken bottles: MTF deliberately matures at a slow, near frustrating pace. It's relaxing if you can - Just un-tense↪ now breathe〰 What will likely frustrate every viewer is that Su, Wu, & Hu are as irritating as a botched drink order. Perhaps it's not what you're expecting, but the director & writer have placed tasty fusion on the table.
In defense of the house specials, 1st we'll look at:
Su. Most people dislike him. For most of MTF he's emotionless. He's cold & self-isolated. Su was alone his entire childhood. Now he's alone, even amongst friends. From his view, human interaction means bitterly spatting parents. Affection denied is intimacy died. ‘Relationships are distasteful’, is what he learned at home. No wonder he's a photographer. He studies but never participates. At the same time, he desperately tries to let ☀ inside. Obnoxious, cold, or odd behaviors are childhood painkillers. Kids cope in any way they can. Entrenched behaviors turn into bad habits that are difficult to delete, like a voicemail once it's already been delivered. "Kron-ih-'kah," while it's appropriate (helpful, even) to call out bad behavior, we shouldn't tell a person that s/he isn't handling pain "right". Be patient & generous w/ others.
Though Su won't imbibe his own feelings, it's obvious that he's always been intoxicated with Wu~
⏱ Per his overseas friend, when Su's in the USA, his comment card mentions Wu ·only· by name. No one else from Kcountry
⏱ Su picked on, cheered up &/or defended no girls, other than than Wu
⏱ No doubts, he enjoys spending ⏱ w/ Wu
⏱ He enjoys it so much that he fills her ☕️ & ⏱ whenever he's back, despite her deflections. "I want to see Wu as much as I can before I leave," he says, etc
⏱ His narcissistic jokes are on the tab, but he never leaves tips about the the good things he's done for Wu
Su's a world away from understanding how his actions leave Wu as frozen as a daiquiri. He lied to himself 1st, being blinded by fear & blunting to his underexposed emotions. Feelings for Wu gush out after she leaves the table to sit in the corner w/ another guy. Then (THEN!) he declares himself. Its effect is 100% contrary to his hopes.
{Bunny⚫> IRL, ya'll RUN AWAY! A romantic relationship won't, nor is it supposed to, fix such problems. People like this often don't want to be part of a project that will hire them. The very moment their desired 'object' stirs, they'll dump ice water all over. MTF is fiction. Don't mix up your life that way}
Enough w/ the ♥️🔺s! Not realizing, as a newbie, what a departure MTF is from Kdrama tropes (the CEO is not the best match), the kind CEO seems the better choice. Su is a different person by the end. He exits w/ his glass ½ full. He loves. He's open to friendship. He is now able to point the lens Wu's way: It's HE that's been in a 1-sided♥️ w/ HER, he declares. I was stunned, and so was Wu. She stops, reviews, & realizes ALL her relationships had been 1sided~> b/c of HER. That's top-shelf writing. It was this scene + crying real tears that took my rating from 7 to 8.
Wu: Though shy, she seems adjusted in HS, but her life's blood is leaking. Sensing she's helpless, sharks attack. Even w/ her friends' support, her emotions are still stunted. HS is when she begins to take Su's cues as clues of his interest. Sadly, Su ain't got a clue ·yet· Wu musters the courage to offer her 💝 to Su at the airport as he's escaping M&D by going to the USA. He visibly stiffens to rebuff her w/ blank eyes & rigid face, as a resolute chill falls like a dropped napkin. It's the 1st in a decade of misalignments between them. She cries for a long ⏱. Eventually, she just cries when she's sozzled. This ♻ repeats in bursts. Su reappears & appears interested, so Wu is frozen in hope. Her loved ones are hungover from it all. They don't like Su.
Wu is her most frustrating when she breaks up w/ Su. She's wrong. She agrees to go abroad w/ him, goes back on her promise, & then blames him for not being there - he doesn't ♥️ her enough, she blames. She wasn't honest about ·what· she needed from ·whom· preferring a draught of resentment when her needs sat empty. Just as she always flits from ex-to-the-next, never once opening up, then floating away, she pivots and does the same to Su.
1-sided♥️ is a symptom, as is her projec/deflec·tion. Neither she nor Su is able to heal the other. They must self-heal to self-liberate or they'll self-isolate & self-medicate.
Hu is suffering from what's referenced in The Perks Of Being A Wallflower: "We accept the 💘 we think we deserve." Always railing against poverty, her mother's complaints drip continuously until their tiny apt was overflowing. Mom's resentment became a bitterness that long ago blotted out affection. Hu has been plied with inferiority. She was dunked into the whirlpool w/ no way to emerge, so she truly believes she's dragging down Hun-Jae, her BF since HS. After all, he shouldn't suffer the way she has! Once again, as is the case w/ Su, the branding from childhood cannot be brushed away. She's also extremely stubborn, like mom, so it takes her a long ⏱ to come around.
It's frustrating how nobody has a faster epiphany, but isn't that true life? People don't pivot like Michael Jordan. These characters, blinded by pain, aren't contrived. I'm reminded of Kafka's Metamorphosis & how fed up I was w/ Gregor: "Someone should smash this bug!" Lol〰 Kafka's manipulations: He tricks the reader into being just as fed up as Gregor's family. Gregor didn't do anything wrong↪ Except↪he frustrated us↪so "bring out the Raid!"
The series is to the rim w/ metaphors:
☂ Absent Su, the dummies are drinking. Wu keeps looking at the empty Su-less chair next to her
☂ Jurassic Park's "Objects in mirror are closer than they appear" is cleverly placed (Su's apt in rearview)
☂ Wu & Su's clothes will start matching as they see each other more often
☂ Pinocchio's nose teaches us that lying distances us from others. We always lie to ourselves 1st. What sensible profundity
〰☂〰 ⛈Rain⛈ 〰☂〰
In MTF, rain represents the rough stuff of life that hammers all. Similar to armor, the ☂☂s are protective Shields. When Su decides to ♥️ Wu, he abandons his ☂ (He ✨ when wet. Ahem). Unprotected, Su hazards the elements & gets drenched. (Song-Wu Ong should do more scenes in the rain, all wet ☺).
People don't share ☂s often in the show. They're all alone in trying to protect themselves from the ⛈ of life. Instead of a lightweight ☂, they're wrapped up & weighted down in armor. We stand strong, walk shielded, & party-on better TOGETHER. It's not a coincidence that Hu compares turtle shells to armor over scars. Eventually, one will die from the weight or learn to take some off. (Of all the hypocrisy! - As if she's going to walk in the rain & not get wet! She will finally pull her chair all the way up to the table.)
About hypocrisy... When Ju tells the other girls how she sees ♥️, fate, & commitment, she might have been staggering around the room from the looks Hu&Wu shot her. The viewer's expectation is that the 2 will choose a personal-life application from the menu. Instead, they comment on how /Ju/ has matured! We're all blind to our own stuff. That scene drops a case of stuff.
Along w/the ♥️🔺, MTF serves up another trope: MSS (Mandatory-Separation-Syndrome). Usually painful as cirrhosis, for Su & Wu it's a good thing. The power balance between them should be 1:1 parts, which is necessary for them to grow together. It's also appropriate that Su's devotion be proof-tested.
The men in this show are saint-level good: Loving, patient, supportive... These girls tapped-the-majic-keg! Even though Wu didn't choose Saint CEO, she did catalyze Su into becoming her prince. Ding-dong! The curse is lifted. Each girl gets her prince! Ju, the girl w/ the loveless curse, gets married 1st. (It looks that way - they'll make it. Right? ;)) She had been looking & lamenting that she would never find him, but he had always been spilled out in front of her. The other two come to realize they weren't cursed in the first place. None of them were.
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The FL is the jerk and narcissist - not the ML
Everyone here is criticizing the ML in this drama but I disagree. The FL is the worst character in the drama. I don’t think she ever understood what it takes to build a relationship because everything went according how she felt and her moods. No wonder she had 12 failed relationship. She thought only about herself and her ‘feelings’. She never really cared about how her partners felt. She treated both the ML and the SML like trash. Their weee all disposable to her. She just used all of them if anyone needed therapy in this drama it was the FL. The ML was doing fine because he had a huge learning curve. He may not have consciously loved her I. The beginning but he was always very caring and she was the only one in his thoughts from beginning to end. The FL did not deserve him. I wish they had broken up for good and he had found someone better while she remained alone for life.. Her breaking up with him while he was working abroad was the most pathetic thing I have seen. She left him high and dry. She could have waited or gone to see him instead. She took all the decisions herself and the whole world just revolved around herself. It was just ‘poor me, me , me with her. She never owned up to her faults or mistakes.There that’s my reviewCet avis était-il utile?
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This could be you
This is a very underrated drama bc it's different and probably realistic- at least to me. That's why I'm fangirling all over it. I'm actually rooting for the ML. Why? Yes, he's jerk, a moron, probably unlovable. But when have we been in love with that person too? Are all of our first loves even close to being perfect? Mine was naïve, cranky, a little jerky and a bit of a narcistic like Lee Soo. And I was Woo Yeon in love with him hoping he'll change his mind waiting for him to get me out of the friend zone. It's all happened to us, that's why I absolutely love this story line and the acting is pretty superb. Give it a shot and watch for the story to twist and turn and watch these two eventually find their way back to each other, The music will also make you swoon.Cet avis était-il utile?
Hate-watching material
This is one of those dramas with unlikable main characters.The ML in particular is a special kind of selfish and manipulative piece of shit. The FL also has her issues, but is at least someone you can sympathize with. She at least tries to end their miserable relationship. But he of course won't allow it.
They both need therapy. That people close to either of them fail to recognize and suggest it is dumbfounding.
About halfway in, I skipped to the end, didn't see myself making it through the other half of the episodes. And the writers unfortunately, or expectedly, went for the "romantic" ending, yikes. I think the much better ending would have been for the main characters, especially the ML, to recognize their issues and go separate ways.
If you look for something to hate-watch, go for it.
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It hurts, this drama feels like real life
Hello,i have never write an review before but this drama just hit me. I started watching with low expections and just because i like the main lead... The story is good, it is more a heartbreaking thing, the whole time you feel the pain but also the happiness for all of them. I cried a lot because it some things in my live was very simular anf i think, maybe its a good drama to overcome rejection, for me it was. I absolutly love this drama and would recommend this so much, even if its a little slowCet avis était-il utile?
I didn’t want to have to give a bad review, but I couldn’t help it.
The story line of this drama was really catchy. I mean I had no expectations but they still managed to disappoint me. This is the first drama where I really dislike the main characters. Everything the male lead did irked me and don’t get me started on the female lead.Now here’s why I watched this up to episode 7, I was thinking it’ll be a drama where the fl would end up with the one that loves her, being the second lead. I kept waiting and expecting. Hell the first I smiled while watching this drama was when I thought she was finally going to date the second lead. I honestly thought the story would be about them. I decided to check the reviews and saw that it wasn’t going in that direction, so I decided to drop it.
It had potential to be really good, but they had to go ahead and ruin it. The upside is that the rest characters and relationships aren’t so bad.
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Just a watchable one..!!
Its more like a complicated love story with so many flaws throughout to the finale Episode. Not the typical style of likable narration but again they done a decent making and sensible justification for the Characters and all may leads this drama to a watchable one. As a big fan of realistic and kind of slice of life melodramas am happy with the way the drama goes , but i felt some dragging in the finale Episodes. The change in the gear kind of feeling and it was so sudden to accept and its so annoying for me bcoz when the male protagonist always mess everything all the time.Particularly for this drama the story always against the male character even in the beginning also. Lee soo, he was a very bad Character in nature we can see that in the first pace of the drama and the heroin kyong woyoon who always kept her unrequited first love for over ten year now, and the guy she loved wants to stay friend with her even though in this long time of gap (its mentioned in the plot)
There is a big love traingle in the middle but if you look at the female leads point of view it makes sensible. There were also 2 other pairs struggling with their love life. One factor i found good here was even though there is big love traingle in the drama,there was no unwanted over traingle sequence like kisses even jealousy etc, they managed everything under control. I really liked the sixth Episode that beginning animation story which apply to the end of that Episode was really beautiful. The two other pairs was also good . I felt one thing that it probably a much better drama if they concluded everything under 12 Episodes. Because you just unnecessarily pushing Episodes in order to target 16 Episodes, too many dragging and unwanted scenes may occur, i felt that in the finale 3 Episodes. But again ending was beautiful.
Overall more than friends was a watchable romantic drama for me , but again i Watched in between a week gap with 2 Episodes each at the time of it airs, opinion may be different if you are a binge watcher. Give it a try if your interested.. :-)
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I never thought I would be able to finish this drama. I went back on this drama three times after being frustrated. I watched Cdramas to lighten up my mood. The problem with KDrama is that the writers think life has so many problems. Problem after problem. I know life is not easy but watching a drama with so many problems is so depressing. Story-
The issue here is that Lee Soo's misunderstood because he doesn't express himself or open up, I think even when he was dating Woo Yeon he still did not open up. He grew up in a broken family, the reason why he doesn't know how to love. Also, I don't know what to say with Kim Young Hee's 10 yrs of Unrequited love. Should I admire her? Pity her? Or knock her head so she would wake up? Their relationship is so messed up because they do not talk. They call each other so often but do not really talk.
Then another depressing here is the life of Kim Young Hee. Why is her life so hard? I just can't understand the reasoning that you cannot get married if you are so poor or if you're mother is sick. Young Hee does not want to share her burden with Hyun Jae but that's how relationship works. That's why you are partners. I wish to have a partner like Hyun Jae, someone who can love me unconditionally, who loves all my flaws and will always be there even I already gave up.
I cried when Hyun Jae visited her mother in the hospital after they broke up. Then I cried a lot when Young Hee's mom died, then cried again when the 2 friends showed up and comforted her, then Hyun Jae cried.
I love the friendship here, that I am so jealous. I hope I have friends that I can meet after work, can drink if happy or sad. Friends that I grew up with.
Cast
All the casts did well. Maybe I did not drop this drama because of their good acting. There are funny moments that helps me forget the sad part of the drama.
Music
I love the songs. All the songs really suited the drama.
Rewatch
I am not sure if I will watch this again as this drama made me cry so bad. I may not watch it again but for sure I will not forget this drama.
Overall
This could have been better if the writer lessen the issues of the cast.
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