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Un presque sans faute
Parfois la curiosité a du bon. Avec la rentrée et tous les aléas qui l'accompagnent, il est parfois délicat de se trouver du temps pour se poser et surtout pour trouver une bonne série à se mettre sous la dent.Ce drama réunit des qualités exceptionnelles et assez uniques, du moins depuis mes 14 ans de visionnage effréné, pour vous le dire sans l'ombre d'un doute.
L'histoire. Je débute souvent par vous dire que le l'histoire n'est pas originale mais que cela m'importe peu. C'est un peu différent ici. L'histoire débute avec quelque chose de familier. Une guerre entre royaume amenant désolation, rendant 2 enfants orphelins, 2 enfants se jurant de rester près de l'un et de l'autre, pour toujours...
Et la suite, va me démontrer que l'on peut écrire une histoire originale sur quelque chose que nous avons tous plus ou moins déjà vu.
Sans avoir à trop vous en dévoiler, le scénario est palpitant et intéressant, réussissant plus d’une fois à nous surprendre. Nos deux enfants ayant grandis, nous en apprenons seulement peu à peu, sans jamais tomber dans le sensationnel, leur passé et leur vécu intriguent nous obligeant ainsi à faire nos propres déductions.
Cette question taraude " que diable s'est-il donc passé ?".
Lorsqu'enfin nous est dévoilé le pourquoi et le comment, nous suivons toujours avec un intérêt grandissant ce jeu d'alliance et de stratégie de Can Xuan et de Xiao Yao. Nous ne sommes pas certes au niveau de "Nirvana in Fire" ou de "Joy of Life", mais cela reste de très bonne facture, le spectateur que nous sommes n'a jamais cette désagréable et familière impression d'être pris pour des pigeons stupides et prêts à avaler n'importe quelle couleuvre. Bien au contraire, les actions, les décisions sont intelligentes, logiques et surtout, correspondent du début à la fin à chaque trait de caractère des personnages. Pas une seule fois, je ne me suis sentie lésée et trahie par un des protagonistes (même celui que je ne peux pas piffrer…).
C'est donc une intrigue mêlant habilement une histoire de guerre de succession sans jamais tomber dans une complexité ennuyante à des romances d'une intensité rarement atteint (surtout ces dernières années). Ce qui m'amène donc au deuxième point fort de ce drama, si ce n'est le point le plus fort du drama : Les relations entre les protagonistes.
…. Je vais commencer par la relation la plus insignifiante à mes yeux pour finir par celle qui a le plus d’importance. Je tiens à préciser que c’est personnel et que je comprends bien sûr que l’on ne puisse être de mon avis. Si je commence ainsi, c’est que celui qui vient est pourtant un des chouchous de la communauté, il est à mes yeux le plus insignifiant, soufflant tel l’air du désert, une intensité proche de zéro. Je parle de Tushan Jing. Cela dit, il a été un de mes préférés au départ. Le mystère entourant sa présence et son passé me le rendait hyper intriguant. Qui plus est, sa prestance combinée à une attitude d’un calme olympien me l’ont rendu durant la première partie un poil attendrissant. Je me disais « ouais un badass ! » Et puis, vint la deuxième partie. Non seulement, Jing ne me faisait plus du tout pitié, et le peu d’admiration que j’ai pu avoir s’est envolé comme neige au soleil…Alors, je ne nie pas toute sa gentillesse profonde, son humanité extraordinaire, son amour loyal et sincère…Mais flûte, est-ce que cela devait-t-il le rendre aussi ennuyant ?????? Limite, je m’endormais à chacune de leur interaction, de leur œillade classique et larmoyant ! Je mentirais si je devais dire que Xiao Yao a bien tort de l’aimer, car oui, nous aimons les gars gentils, romantiques, sans histoire réelle, sans complication, fidèles et aimants…bref, je viens de vous dessiner la romance de tous les jours, celle qui au final que nous aimons avoir et qui finit par pourtant nous ennuyer à l’écran. C’est des bisous à tout bout de champs, des regards énamourés et un semblant de jalousie qui n’arrive même pas à pimenter leurs fausses escarmouches aussi bruyantes que le vol d’une mouche. Oui, j’ai détesté leur histoire, je ne m’en cacherais pas…Et puis, c’est quoi ce gars qui proclame son amour dans le silence de leur rencontre, pour ensuite se taire aux yeux du monde ?? Can Xuan le dit superbement «se débarrasser de Yi Ying n’est pas facile, mais s’il le veut vraiment, il est tout à fait possible de le faire ». Mais ouaich (je parle comme une ado…), l’amoureux transi n’est pas capable de se montrer ferme et de prendre les mesures nécessaires. Nan, il préfère jouer les jaloux et les amoureux transis et ensuite, au lieu de se triturer les méninges à sauver sa belle, il préfère mourir avec elle. A la bonne heure, cela va sûrement faire avancer les choses ! Je me pourléchais les babines à l’idée de voir un chevalier à l’armure blanche, fort de ses pouvoirs…que dalle, un mec, qui ne sert à rien (nan, mais sérieux, vraiment à rien ! même niveau pouvoir, je cherche encore…), qui PLEURNICHE tout le temps, soupire TOUT LE TEMPS après sa belle, le regard dans le vide et qui la suit comme un toutou pour au final lui tourner le dos, au lieu de trouver une solution. Pardonnez-moi, mais un mec qui me dit « je t’aime, tu es tout pour moi » pour ensuite préférer me poignarder plutôt que poignarder les autres, ce n’est pas exactement ce que je dirais « aimer plus que tout… ». Bref je ne l’aime pas.
Mon deuxième. Feng Long. Il a sûrement moins d’importance que les autres (il mérite pourtant plus d’attention que Jing), mais j’ai vraiment apprécié sa franchise. C’est un personnage qui parle sans détour et qui prône l’amitié et la loyauté avant tout. C’est fort appréciable. J'espère qu'il prendre de l'importance dans la prochaine saison.
Mon troisième. Can Xuan. Alors lui………… Après une première partie où j’avais peu d’intérêt pour ce personnage, limite, je me demandais « heu, c’est lui le protagoniste ???? mais WHY ??? ». En effet, je n’étais pas spécialement attirée par son personnage. Ni par son histoire, ni par sa relation avec Xiao Yao. Je me moquais intérieurement de son aveuglement et me réjouissais d’avance de la claque bien méritée lorsque bien sur l’identité de Xiao Yao exploserait en plein jour. « Bien fait » pensais-je.
Il m’arrive d’avoir tort. Heureusement, cela prouve que le scénariste et le réalisateur savent y faire.
Mon cœur. J’en ai pleuré, la minute même où Can Xuan apprend la vérité. Ce fut le tournant de l’histoire. Ce moment précis, où mon cœur s’est ému pour la première fois dans ce drama. Ce regard où toute la douleur se joue fut incroyable ! Cette scène où il s’avance, sans rien dire vers elle, et s’agenouillant, la soignant, avec cette expression horrible sur le visage. Cette phrase, unique, phrase banale somme toute « Est-ce que tu as mal ? » m’a littéralement brisé le cœur !!!! Et Gosh, l’expression de Xiao Yao à ce moment-là, ses larmes, ce soulagement mêlé à un chagrin…punaise, je suis presque tombée amoureuse.
Leur relation est LA relation de ce drama, et cela sans aucun doute à mes yeux. J’ai rarement vu une relation aussi forte et aussi intense que celle qui lie Can Xuan et Xiao Yao…
Nous savons qu’une romance entre deux est impossible. Et pourtant, ce qui les unit va au-delà des mots, dépasse la simple romance (je vous jure, à côté Jing fait tellement pâle figure…). Il y a une telle confiance entre eux qui exclue tous les autres.
« Où que tu sois, je serais », c’est aussi simple que cela. La scène la plus intense du drama, de tout dramaland d’ailleurs, a explosé l’écran et mon cœur n’en est pas ressorti indemne : la tentative d’assassinat de Can Xuan ! God, cette scène a été fabuleuse et toute l’émotion qu’ont su dégager les deux acteurs a été phénoménal ! J’ai oublié de respirer tout le long où Xiao Yao et Can Xuan se sont mutuellement protégés. Rien que d’y penser, j’en ai encore des frissons et des larmes aux yeux. Sincèrement, je ne les vois pas finir ensemble, mais peu m’importe car comme je l’ai dit, leur lien va au-delà d’une simple romance. Et c’est bien la première fois que je fantasme autant sur une relation qui ne finira pas en happy ending !
Je vais finir par le dernier, mon chouchou, mon préféré. Xiang Liu. Alors oui, oui il n’est pas très gentil. Oui, il est un peu psychopathe sur les bords. Certes, un ton caustique, des mots cassants et une attitude frisant la violence gratuite. Bref, tout pour déplaire. Et pourtant !
J’ai un faible certain pour ce type de personnage, « the wolf », ou Terrence (Ah Candy), je l’admets.
Xiang Liu possède tout ce que j’aime : la classe, la force brute, la volonté de ne pas faiblir, la sexy attitude (avec un tel sourire, difficile de n’en pas tomber amoureuse), et surtout, celui de protéger en silence, d’aimer en silence, de ne jamais rien attendre en retour (tout le contraire de Jin grgrgr). Ah mais quelle frustration de le voir en silence sauver sa belle, d’attendre dans l’ombre et ne jamais le clamer.
Et leur relation ? Mêlant habilement une intensité remarquable à une complicité sans faille, ce couple se complète à merveille. Il n’y a aucun doute pour moi que Xiang Liu est l’âme sœur de Xiao Yao et c’est d’autant plus rageant de le voir rester volontairement dans l’ombre.
Est-ce que Xiao Yao l’aime ? définitivement…Ces larmes laissés dans le coquillage après que Xiao Yao parte, ce miroir qu’elle garde en secret et surtout ses paroles au sujet de ne pas laisser entrer n’importe qui dans ses rêves face à Xiang Liu, c’est plié, aucun doute à ce sujet, je sais vers qui vont réellement ses sentiments. Connaissant la loyauté sans faille de Xiao Yao, il n’est pas étonnant de la voir tourner le dos à l’ennemi de Can Xuan.
Alors oui, oui, comme beaucoup d’entre vous, la curiosité étant un vilain défaut, je n’ai pu m’empêcher de me pourrir la vie en allant lire les « on dit » de ceux qui ont la chance d'avoir lu le livre, afin de savoir quelle tournure prenait les relations de Xiao Yao. Alors autant vous dire que je viens de me spoiler en beauté et que bien avant le début de la deuxième saison, je connais déjà la réponse. Malgré tout, c’est avec impatience que j’attends la saison 2…
J’oubliais…et Xiao Yao ? Un personnage féminin tout simplement INCROYABLE. Yan Zi joue ici son rôle le plus complexe et le plus important jusqu’à présent. Xiao Yao est un personnage féminin d’une force surprenante ! Sans posséder aucun atout physique, Xiao Yao use de sa verve afin d’imposer sa présence. Tantôt mutine, tantôt ironique, elle joue tour à tour de la douceur et de la fermeté, nous apprécions son intelligence et la finesse de ses réparties. Franche et honnête, elle ne sait mentir et affronte ses adversaires (c’est-à-dire de Can Xuan) sans jamais faiblir. Il faut la voir affronter ses assassins d’une manière remarquable, toute fragile et faible usant de sa volonté de survie afin de ne pas mourir aussi facilement.
C’est donc un personnage que j’ai adoré de A à Z, qui mérite amplement d’être aimé par les 4 protagonistes masculins et dont les décisions ne m’ont jamais déçue (même celui de Jing….). Et puis le jeux d e l'actrice est extraordinaire....;rien que la scène où elle pense avoir retrouvé sa mère est à applaudir à tout rompre! Ou la scène où elle tente de protéger Can Xuan lors de la tentative d'assassinat, ce hurlement déchirant et cette expression de terreur vont me poursuivre longtemps....Bref, Yan Zi a été fabuleuse!
En ajoutant la superbe réalisation, une bande son agréable et des personnages secondaire attendrissants et attachants ( le grand-père ou A Nian), ce drama aurait eu un quasi sans faute à mes yeux, si seulement Jing n’avait pas eu autant d’importance (oui, car il est tout de même là tout le temps….).
Vivement la saison 2 !
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Histoire incroyable
Lost you Forever est de loin, l'un des meilleurs dramas que j'ai vu, voir même LE meilleur.Le début est un peu lent, c'est là qu'on apprend à connaître les personnages principaux et que les bases se créées, mais à partir de l'épisode 8 ou 9, c'est là que tout devient de plus en plus intéressant. J'étais addicte à ce drama et ne pouvait plus m'arrêter de le regarder, restant éveiller jusqu'aux petites heures du matin juste pour finir un épisode!
L'histoire est très riche et complexe, mais pas trop non plus, elle est quand même facile à suivre. L'histoire se déroule sur plusieurs centaines d'années, dans un monde où les gens ont des pouvoirs spéciaux leurs permettant d'accomplir pleins de choses différentes. Certains dramas fantastiques de ce genre ont tendances à être très complexe à suivre, mais Lost you Forever a une direction artistique claire qui permet aux locuteurs de bien suivre le courant des choses. L'évolution des personnages est très intéressantes à suivre également. Xiaoyao/Xiaoliu est un personnage pour lequel on s'attache rapidement. Sa personnalité est attachante et son histoire est très riche et contient de nombreuses facettes dont je ne développerai pas, pour ne pas donner de spoilers. Même les autres personnages sont également tout aussi attachants. L'aspect "romance" de ce drama est également très intriguant est très bien abordé. La romance ne tombe pas dans des clichés "ringards" quelconque, c'est vraiment naturel. Je pense que l'aspect "naturel" de ce drama est ce qui le rend aussi bien. Tous les personnages ont simplement l'air VIVANTS et RÉELS. D'ailleurs, aucun aspect de l'histoire a l'air forcé. que ce soit des aspects positifs ou négatifs. Si un rebondissant survient, on ne va pas avoir la sensation que les scénaristes force trop l'histoire dans un sens, c'est une histoire très bien écrite.
Une chose qui m'a grandement marqué est le talent des acteurs dans ce drama. Je remarque rarement le talent des acteurs lorsque je regarde une série, mais cette fois-ci, c'était vraiment frappant! J'ai rarement vu des acteurs aussi talentueux, ils savent partager les émotions de leur personnages même au travers de l'écran et c'est si naturel. Pendant les scènes les plus émouvantes, je me retrouvais même à pleurer, étant très peu émotive comme personne, ce drama a réussi à m'émouvoir.
Je n'attends que la saison 2 maintenant où j'ai grandement hâte de voir où l'histoire peux bien aller!
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The One Who Can Stay With Her Forever
The chemistry of all the three male leads with Xiaoyao begins with... "because I was once all alone and abandoned and you stayed with me. And even if the world hates my dark side, is after my royal position, you like me for me..." Be it Cang Xuan or Tushan Jing or Xiang Liu, all three first found a great companion in Xiaoyao for their loneliness. While Xiaoyao herself, was on the search of someone who would accompany her till the end.Lost You forever is a compelling, intriguing narrative spanning over hundreds of years set in kingdom Dahuang where deities are struggling over power and these ambitious or least-interested-in-power characters are struggling to stay alive or do as they like among the harsh palace and wordly walls.
Half of the plot is about how these main characters have merely one percent control over there own lives and that's what made them selfish, desperate and cold. Ngl their struggles never end and no single soul has happiness in the whole Dahuang. More than liking or hate I've a truckload of pity for them... The male protagonists only see the leading lady Xiaoyao as their light of hope and Xiaoyao who is almost numb to the world, sceptical, she wants a man who can be kind to her forever without breaking her heart or promises... the rest half plot is about some fast paced politics where Cang Xuan is trying to make a name for himself.
Lost you forever has to be the most fast paced, polished, top tier production quality palace drama I've watched this year. The direction and acting are worthy of praises. Tbh I was reluctant to start this earlier but Yang Zi's performance here surprised me eminently. Scattered scenes like her visiting her father in Haoling after long, getting injured by thousands of incoming petals and her staring at stairs looking back at what she has been through, all these scenes made me as heartbroken as she was. Would dare to say that this might be her best work as an actress where she got to show her range in her craft.
Being a historical where female lead stays as a 'Male' for half of the drama, Yang Zi was far impressive in her part. her Wen Xiao Liu was so convincing that it took me some episodes to digest that she's a woman now. I often saw a man in her face after she transformed xDDD... But this was the reason Xiaoyao got along well with all four male leads in the first place (expect Fenglong who fell at first sight for her feminine side, but he later admitted how comfortable he was with her as a buddy indicating that he also liked her straightforward cool-bro nature)
Let me introduce you to the options, Princess of Haoling, Haoling Jiu Yao (Xiaoyao) has —
1. Cang Xuan (I'm far ambitious but I'm doing this so that I'm powerful enough to protect her. I'm so in love with her that I don't mind being her brother for life if I get to stay by her side)... Zhang Wanyi has crazy eyes that have accurate longing and helplessness this complex role needs. He's both a psycho and a heartwarming brother favored by ladies. He was so impressive that I kinda want him in more darker roles in future.
2. Tushan Jing (I like her but I'm also too kind, I'm good at strategies but I still fail in life becoz I'm too gentle for this world)... Deng Wei's face suits the nice male lead trope but he felt a bit off in some scenes. Maybe its about experience that he will gain slowly, even so he was good. his chemistry with FL is all mushy and cute type where they talk and paint and I'm blushing hahaha
3. Xiang Liu (yes I'm that white haired guy most of you were swooning over. I would kill and not kill for her. I wander the world in white robes but go back to tease or bite her once every episode)... Picking Tan Jianci for Xiang Liu is epic!!!!!!!! (He looks great( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)) He's scheming, maybe an extremist but damnnn his deep talks, nonsense bickering, drowning in water has hell lot of chemistry with Xiaoyao.
4. Chishui Fenglong (I met her late but I've power I can promise to stay with her for longer so who knows?)... In front of the three above, he obviously seemed less charming and like a supporting character instead but I'm excited to see his growth in S2.
While almost all the viewers have already picked up their ships and started rooting for them, I'm more like Xiaoyao and just enjoying it with the flow lol (maybe I'm heartless too :))... I was once all into Jing's puppy love, then I got swayed by TCJ's Xiang Liu and now I'm not choosing anymore haha. Just excited for season 2 and can they please release it tomorrow? Like waiting for 6 months means I'll lose this emotional build up I've for this drama right now.
The song I loved the most from the huge OST list has to be the theme song ♪Nothing Can Be Compared to You♪ (万物不如你) sung by Zhang Jie.
To sum it up, lost you forever is an addictive, thought provoking, melancholic romantic historical that keeps you entertained for sure. The exceptional setup and dramatic music is something you get in handy.
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1The Princess Bride.
Lost You Forever is a dark, beautiful, suspenseful and, poignant tale of intrigue, treachery and longing. This drama is immersive with its air of mystery, the shiver of danger, a whisper of regret and a sense of profound loss and longing that saturates every scene. It is a story about love but it is not a love story. It is a far more complex and expansive exposition of the many kinds of love and how it can be restraining and boundless at the same time.Set in Dahuang, a magical, treacherous and unpredictable world where humans, demons and deities co-exist, two forsaken royal orphans vow to always cherish and protect one another. Shattered by a broken promise, Xiao Yao loses herself, misplaced during a time of great turmoil. She assumes the appearance of a man and lives among the humans and demons of Qingshui Town as the village fertility doctor. This is the most exciting arc because everyone has secrets and danger lurks around every corner. When cornered, Xiao Yao is most adept at grovellng, lying or poisoning her way out of trouble. Yet she is carefree, uninhibited and almost contented in Qingshui Town with her found family. Alas, destiny catches up with her as Cang Xuan, Tushan Jing and Xiang Liu all converge upon Qingshui Town, shattering her refuge.
The latter arcs take on a political tone as Cang Xuan emerges as a contender for the Xiyan throne with Xiao Yao clearing the path for him. They must establish Cang Xuan's support base among the restless and resentful Central Plains; where the noble clans and families have complicated blood ties to remnants of the defeated Chenrong state. Xiao Yao is the princess bride, a chess piece that Cang Xuan dangles temptingly in front of the scions of the powerful aristocratic families he seeks to win over. Marriage to him is simply a means to seal alliances. He supresses his heart's deepest, secret longing by sheer willpower. Zhang Wanyi adroitly portrays Cang Xuan as a consummate politician, a very dangerous, smiling tiger / xiàomiànhǔ 笑面虎 who has his enemies in a death lock before they even know it. Love is not of paramount importance for Cang Xuan and Xiao Yao, whose destinies are interlocking as a result of their childhood oath. They work towards a greater purpose with one heart and one mind. Anyone and everyone else is always subordinated to this purpose. They are both unattainable characters who have already carved out so much of themselves for each other that there is not much left for anyone else. This is why what Xiao Yao seeks is an unequal relationship with essentially, a doormat. The princess in her however prefers that it is a doormat made of fox fur rather than a rather foolish, entitled product of too much in-breeding.
Xiao Yao is by far the darkest, most complicated, and most independent female protagonist I have come across in Chinese dramas. This is an awesome and challenging role that Yang Zi delivers magnificently. As someone who had a huge allergic reaction to her earlier works, I am speechless at her portrayal. Her Wei Xiaoliu has decisively unseated Ni Ni's Fang Weizhi as the most convincingly acted female disguised as a male character. But it is her heart-wrenching homecoming scene that can squeeze tears from a rock that truly captures the depth of Xiao Yao's sense of abandonment and despair over the person she lost forever. I can't think of another actor that has so visibly taken their acting to a high a new level the way Yang Zi has. That said, no power on this earth will make me revisit her past roles though I enthusiastically look forward to her future ones.
Tushan Jing is the weakest link in this drama both in terms of how the character is written and portrayed. Despite his stunning physical appeal, this is not a role that a promising but inexperienced actor like Deng Wei is ready for. He pulls off a charismatic and endearing Ye Shiqi that melted Wei Xiaoliu's stone-cold and lonely heart. But he lacks depth and range and visibly struggles to get into character as Tushan Jing. His perpetual stricken, deer-in-the headlight expression threw me out of some of the drama's best, most intense moments. When the Haoling King assures his daughter that the shrewd and canny Tushan Jing must have already guessed her identity, the camera pans to a dumbfounded looking Tushan Jing! I burst out laughing even though I am absolutely sure I was not supposed to. It does not help that the character's weak and indecisive waffling does not match Tushan Jing's reputation as one of the most brilliant and cunning minds of Dahuang. There is clearly also a writing issue but it does not excuse the actor's inability to make the character seem deeply conflicted rather than just weak and lacking basic smarts and survival instincts. This is a glaring weakness that weighs on both my viewing experience and my rating.
Xiang Liu is Xiao Yao's greatest nightmare, a demon that she is bonded to by a spell no one fully grasps. He is her soul mate; they are both lonely, realistic characters trapped by a cause that is bigger than themselves and thus have no free will. Tan Jianci's masterful, subtly tragic rendering of this vicious, resentful and enigmatic nine-headed demon with a shockingly passionate heart has catapulted this fantastic actor to a new level recognition. His styling is spectacular but what takes my breath away is how with the angle of the head or a flicker of an eye, his expression can change from unholy amusement to vicious cruelty; from tortured to pure, unbridled joy and affection. I don't know how Xiang Liu's story ends but the fact that he is committed to a lost cause that pits him against the person Xiao Yao protects at all costs fills me with dread. I cannot see any scenario in which this ship does not somehow sink but my heart won't listen to my head that urges me to get on the lifeboat to safety before it is too late.
Season 1 sets up the backstory of a world torn apart by war and introduces many well-written and multi-faceted characters that were collateral damage in the conflict. Intricate relationships and debts that will at some point come due accumulate between the various stakeholders. After some draggy politicking, Season 1 ends triumphantly with an unexpected twist and sets the stage very nicely for Season 2. I expect Season 2 to reveal even more secrets from the past that will force Xiao Yao to make some impossible choices. How unbreakable is her bond with Cang Xuan? Will the tragic story of Chi Chen and the Xiling witch repeat itself? Will Deng Wei finally get his act together and give us the real Tushan Jing? Will Xiao Yao shock us with her marksmanship by shooting her rival in her black heart? I hope we will not have to wait too long to find out. At the same time, I am grateful that this breaks in a good place for a time out. I have come to care too much for these characters and something tells me that this is the kind of story where even those who get what they want may not truly want what they get.
So far, Lost You Forever is the most addictive and immersive drama I have watched in 2023. I rate this a 9.0 for now because there are some notable flaws but if Season 2 comes together well, there is scope for me to revise it up.
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Can't wait for season 2
I am someone who has little faith in Xianxia genre. Most of the time they ruin the whole story with unnecessary fillers if it's an adaptation. Plus they change the major part of the story that ends up into a cliched, stupid and predictable storyline. Another thing is annoying stupid female that we usually find in such dramas. And the most important part- Rushed ending!!!!What I loved:
- WHAT A CAST. No over the top acting. ( Special mention for kids). Yangzi killed it with her acting skills here. The actor who play Cang Xuan, man he might not be my favourite character but his acting and the subtle emotions that he portrayed throughout the show is undoubtedly the best. What an amazing actor. Another special mention is for the grandpa. What an outstanding character. Every actor from a maid to all the rulers and side characters behaved like the real person not just some extras.
-Female lead is not annoying ( was not a fan of Yangzi as I have always seen her in bubbly, hyper and stupid girl sort of role.) I didn't know she will become one of my favourites.
- Finally all of them have their own voices. (No dubbing).
-Loved the songs especially the one sung by the actress herself. Background music just adds more beauty to the fantasy world of this drama.
-Only few episodes and you won't be able to stop yourself from watching. The story is really good and connects you right away with the characters.
- Three male leads are there and believe me you will find it hard to choose a favourite. All of them acted so well that you just can't ignore their presence.
- Set design, costumes and overall production is really good. CGI is...okay in some scenes but they utilised the money at the right place and those scenes looked mesmerizing. It again proves that an amazing director can bring so much out from the actors and made sure people could connect to the characters.
I was planning to read the novel (if I could find it somewhere) but it is good I went into it without prior knowledge about the novel. I can't believe we all have to wait for a long time for season 2. But this season satisfyed my thrust for an amazing well paced, edited and acted Xianxia drama. It deserves all the praise. :)
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THE MOST CAPTIVATING ACTING PERFORMANCE EVER
I have always longed for a wuxia drama with a sensible, strong and relatable female lead and LYF gave me a 10 over 10. I cried so much, smiled so much when things got better and loved it so much!!! This should be ranked less than #100 in MDL. Hope the rating goes up. Excellent acting performance from the 4 main leads! Too beautiful and easily the best drama I watched...no cap. Cant wait for season 2A standing ovation for Yang Zi for the awesome acting, not many can pull off such performance. I have always loved actresses who are not just pretty but able to act and embody emotions because at the end of the day you can buy yourself a pretty face( don't mean in a bad way) but you can't buy creative acting skills (it takes hard work or natural talent)
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stellar performance ✨️
I have started this drama only because it is currently 'the talk of the town', a highly invested and budgeted drama, But i then decided to continue for many reasons:.Differently from other dramas where the connection with the characters normally gets me after 2-3 episodes, this one found a connection straight away, with the stellar performance of the FL whom i knew from Ashes of love, but which character didn't impressed me that much.
On this drama, Yang Zi delivers a courageous performance, perfectly cross dressing in a believable male role. Never afraid to look normal, not pretty in many scenes, BRAVO! She is one of the reasons i decided to continue.
The male leads surrounding her are each of then unique and are giving our FL different emotional and physical experiences, you have the brother, the 'puppy' kind of love offering warmth, the challenger abusive potential lover... i wish i was her to have them for me ??
The characters have all gone through some sort of abuse, loneliness, and are mostly unloved .. and you might find the drama difficult to watch at times as very raw and painful.. but if you are able to digest those scenes, you will be rewarded and taken deeply into their world...
Some of the strong scenes were linked to the character that had taken my breath, heart and reasons away .. but i didn't have a say on this choice as... yes... i have a weak spot for white/silver haired man.... ??
you might decide to drop drama as i did myself as i thought I couldn't bear to continue watching it.. but it then took me less than a day to get back at it because i actually couldn't bear to be without it! The irony...
If interested, it would help you to understand the reasons behind many events if you are able to get your hand on the novel this drama is based on. On My Drama List website, there is a discussion forum with links to the novel and further discussions and readings from the books.
A final Bravo to the whole team behind production! This drama is well constructed, with an interesting plot and characters developments.
Thank you!
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There was once a girl who lost her way
Anyone can look at my drama list count and know there is a slight obsessive trait towards Asian dramas. I'm an American who cut cable in 2014 and didn't miss a beat because I discovered the storylines from Korean and Chinese dramas offered a solid story line versus the gratuitous sex scenes in American television, which often times made no sense to the plot. As such, there are times of preoccupation with these dramas, and "Lost You Forever" is definitely one that I rewatch daily.This drama was lucky and shrewd enough to hire the original author as a screenwriter, and it made this story absolutely rich in detail and pacing. Not once did I hit the fast forward button, and many times, a rediscovery of rewind and repeat was used throughout each of the 39 episodes. Because of my obsession, I found the English translation of the original work, read it in three days, and cried through the last ten chapters. Life is full of choices, loss, betrayal, and love, and this novel allowed each of the main characters to display every human trait to the fullest. If given a chance, please read it because the character's silent voice in the drama helped explain some of their decisions.
The actors in the drama are immersed in their characters, and this allowed me to dive into their world without interruption. The multi-faceted Xiao Yao who feared abandonment; the fierce Xiyan Cang Xuan who was schooled to assume power at the cost of his personal happiness; the gentle and cunning Tushan Jing who longs to escape his clan responsibility while clinging to an ever-fading hope of forever with Xiao Yao; and lastly, the beautiful Xiang Liu, who discovers clinging to the emotion of love is a war with indebted duty.
Needless to say, I cannot wait for part 2, but am watching part 1 daily and picking up details I missed during the first go around. This drama is a masterpiece, and I hope this continues in the sequel.
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Beautiful cinematography ; remarkable acting and such a pleasure to watch
I ventured upon LYF while waiting on new episodes for another drama - with the result of completely dropping the other drama to rewatch LYF obsessively when it wasn't updating. I had expected just another popular xianxia romance that are dropped a dime a dozen these days in C-drama land but instead was blown away with the quality of the production. The story was good but didn't seem too special to me - with common themes of ambition, family, love, and kindness. However, the ensemble performance of the actors along with the beautiful artistry in the setting and the captivating screenwriting really captured me. In general, the casting was superb - and every role was likable. The sheer beauty of each frame also just blew me away - I usually skip about half of each C-drama I watch as they are usually slow and draggy- LFY is still slow - but it was such a pleasure to slow down with it to savor the beauty of each scene - the beauty of the set combined with the costumes and the charisma of the actors. This was an ensemble casting with the romance line drawn mainly between the FL and the second and third ML who both had backgrounds in dancing. I think this paid off hugely in the artistry of each scene - the actors' silhouettes gracing the beautiful landscape surreally leaving us mortals sighing at the Chinese mystical fairyland.Story - This is a story that is steeped in Confucian culture- the world illustrated is quite traditional but with wisps of modernity - a world where women are allowed to be generals (such as the FL's mother) ; bodyguards; can do anything (even fight or make weapons!) as well as men - and are yet mostly still shut out of the top of the political economic structure. Harems are the norm ( I find it ironic that it is always the case in a 'reverse harem' story) and filial piety and tribalism rules the day. It seems that this is based on the common acknowledged social structure and the men's inter personal relations. Yet, in a world like this, the FL wishes to be able to stand on her own and not get hurt emotionally. Her one rule in marriage: that the guy must be solely devoted to her and not have any other women, seems impossible again and again to fulfill - it competes against manly ambitions; against loyalty/nationalism ; even against family interests. For people familiar with Chinese culture, many scenes in the movie are reminiscent to me a bit of the Story of the Red Chamber - with TSJ (2nd ML) especially having both the look and feel of Jia Baoyu - tragic, sensitive, almost feminine. In the original book, the take and illustration of TSJ's kindness and refusal to give in to hate and revenge is rather controversial with many readers seeing him as weak, and siding instead with the heroic Xiang Liu. The drama's stance feels more on TSJ's side - and the portrayal is quite masterful. Many details added in the drama enrich the original story and I'd go to say that this is the one rare occasion where the drama is at least as good, if not even better, than the novel.
Acting- I am blown away by the ensemble cast. Yang Zi was predictably good here but it was great to see that the five relatively unknown actors paired with her sometimes actually outshine her. The fresh faces are exciting to see and one hopes to see their careers develop over the next few years. Scenes featuring YZ and Zhangwanyi emphasize their skills in acting - YZ and TJC have a mystical romantic feel and the DW/YZ interactions are pure eye candy. I didn't have to fast forward any scenes on the first go. On my second viewing, I found myself mostly focused on scenes with Deng Wei and especially the Yao Jing or Liu/Shiqi scenes. Given DW's relative newcome status, I thought at first that was because of the characterization of his character and how likable it is. By the end of the 39 episodes, however, I have to say his acting was actually solid. Details were handled very precisely and I've never seen any character suffer so beautifully. DW really embodied TSJ/YSQ - given how green he is, I hope he can continue to develop his skills and bring us more productions in the future.
Music - as in many C-dramas I think they use and repeat the music way too much but the tunes are nice and beautiful. The novel emphasized the use of the zither and how beautifully TSJ can play it - I wish the drama did better with that. Given how classy the rest of the drama feels, it would have really been nice to really use zither music than modern ones. But at least it all sounds pretty good and catchy.
Cinematography - I was blown away with how beautiful the scenes were and even the CGI didn't feel fake! Many times I get annoyed at the use of cute little animals in xianxia c-drama as cheap tricks for little girls but I admit actually falling for both the Chubby bird and the White Fox spirit. I'm happy the producers didn't feel adding the cuteness dragged the artistry of the production down and it was nice to see a xianxia production that actually felt serious and classy.
Last take - Yang Zi has been a queen of xianxia ever since AOL was released. I think this is the best production yet she's in. It is worth all the angst and time and express pass money spent on it to watch and savor. I do think it is time for Yang Zi to move onto another genre but for now I am grateful for this production and of her leading the whole cast in making this drama memorable.
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Melancholic, contemplative and sublime
RATING: 9.25/10Lost You Forever was not one of my most highly anticipated shows this year. After all, four men after one woman didn’t sound like a convincing enough reason to watch a show. But thankfully, the trailer of this show really drew me in and I’m glad I went on this ride.
I have to admit - this is one of the best shows released so far this year. The first episode had me in tears, and logically there’s no reason to cry during the first episode of any show - because you don’t know characters well enough to care for them so much. But it was touching and mournful and it immediately felt like a special show.
What makes LYF really stand out is its contemplative approach. It is extremely slow, but never draggy. It builds a convincing world with interesting characters, all with their own stories and traumas. Our four leads have rich histories and have lived for hundreds of years. I like how this aspect is not brushed aside, but is actually fleshed out. For one, they feel mature and world-wise. In the case of Xiaoyao, the abandonment she experienced multiple times in life makes her hesitant to hope for things. Cang Xuan losing his parents tragically at such an early age forces him to grow up fast and pushes him to want to protect those he loves. Tushan Jing is the embodiment of forgiveness and kindness that in spite of suffering so much, he never seeks revenge. Xiang Liu is bound to his benefactor and has his own tragic backstory, but always cares for Xiaoyao secretly and from afar, without seeking rewards. Although it may seem like LYF is a romance show, it is not. Every character exists for things other than love, but love definitely connects everyone. This show has all forms of love present in it, which at many times transcend romantic and physical love.
These are some of the things I love on this show:
CASTING: I have to say that all actors are exceptionally talented and perfect for their roles. This was my first time watching Yang Zi in a full production (I’d only seen her for a short while on another show), but also my first time watching Zhang Wan Yi. I’ve seen both Deng Wei and Tan Jianci before (albeit in minor roles). Everyone has done a stellar job, including supporting actors. There’s no fault I can pick here and I look forward to watching all these actors in their future projects. It is because of their amazing performances here that it has been so easy to cry. I also need to mention the child actors who played Cang Xuan and Xiaoyao in the first episode - they were so amazing!
MUSIC: I have to give a special mention to the music in the series. The songs are beautiful and inserted at the right moments. I also did not expect Tan Jianci to sing so well, so that was a pleasant surprise. Other than that, the instrumental score is phenomenal and elevates the show and the emotional core of the show. I’ve been listening to the soundtrack on loop and it immediately transports me back to the show.
THE WORLD BUILDING: Because the show takes a very slow approach to storytelling, the world feels very well-fleshed out. It feels like an alternate universe with its own unique rules. At the same time, it feels lived-in and realistic. This is hard to achieve for many shows and I commend LYF for doing this so well. Can I also mention the cute fictional animals like feifei (poor thing), as well as Chubby and TSJ’s white fox - they’re all so adorable.
EMOTIONAL AND PHILOSOPHICAL DEPTH: I have lost count of how many tears I have shed watching this show. I think there are some very small, seemingly insignificant moments that are given so much emotional depth. Also, because characters are so well developed, it is easy to see the bonds between them and be emotionally invested. One of the aspects I appreciate most about the show is how the seemingly unimportant interactions between characters reveal so much about the characters themselves. It is quite difficult to achieve such a balance, but LYF nails this wonderfully. Furthermore, the show asks a lot of philosophical questions about life and the nature of existence. I really appreciate that approach.
All in all, I don’t have anything bad to say as such. I think seeing Xiaoliu/Xiaoyao being tortured many times during the first several episodes made the show very difficult to watch. Not my favourite bits. Similarly, Jing being trapped with Yiying because of a long-winded plan hatched by his grandmother, Yiying and Hou is not my favourite story arc. Jing’s grandmother, Yiying and Hou truly suck.
Now I’m waiting impatiently for Season 2 like everyone else.
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Best Xianxia I ever watched
I never wrote a review before so bear with me.Lost you forever is the most grounded xianxia I have seen in a long time. yes there are demons, nine tailed foxes and winged beasts but the drama, the politics, the emotions and the relationships are rooted in realism and complexity. The fantasy element is here to create wonder and an esthetically pleasing atmosphere as opposed to centering the story.
The story seldom uses genre tropes and when it does , it is successful at it. The FL here starts in the body of a man something that is never believable in so many other dramas. But here, Yang Zi delivers the most realistic "woman disguized as a man" role yet. The actress is allowed to look rugged and unglamourous, not using that hideous orange eye makeup and lipgloss. she has unassuming mannerisms and straightforward voice.
After her gender was revealed, she assumes her feminity but doesn't abandon her nonchalant attitude and priorities. for example, medecine and poison making.
The MLs(we have 4) are incredibly different and multilayered :
The 1st ML played beautifully by Zhang Wan Yi in what could only be described as a breakout role, is a politican first and foremost. He isn't aversed to using everyone including the FL for his endgame. The FL sees him as a brother and considers him the most important person in her life.
The 2nd ML : is the romantic interest, The most broken character that got a second chance at life thanks to the FL. He is smart, wealthy and savvy but because of his suffering doesn't care about material possessions and channels his means to help the FL and the 1st ML.
The 3rd ML: a demon who has 9 lives . uses the FL at first for her blood that possesses healing abilities but comes to love her and protect her later on.
the 4th ML: a good natured but ambitious politician who wishes to become his clan leader by allying with the 1st ML and marrying the FL.
I personally fell in love with the second ML for his gentleness and devotion to the FL and was happy to realize he would be endgame early on. Breaking again with the norms established within similar stories.
I also loved the complexity of the 1st ML. Rarely do we get a central character willing to do what he does.
So yes , this was a very enjoyable ride for me and I can't wait for the second season to wrap it all up.
Overall a 10/10 for me.
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A great story that has an underlying message, "Sometimes, we don't deserve to have good things."
In the beginning, the story folded out very well. All of the characters have some kind of potential and brought lots of joys to the drama. Each character added a unique emotion to their scenes. Watching it, we can see the efforts put into this drama by Yangzi, WY, TJC, and DW. In the first 10 episodes, Yangzi holds the drama with her stellar acting. We felt all kinds of emotions. As the drama unfolded, Cang Xuan and Deng wei took 11 to 20 episodes on their back with their amazing performances. Epi 21 to 26 Tan Jianci stole our hearts and attention. When the romance between Jing and XY starts, I feel like that drama went downhill from there up until XL appears again to save XY 30 to 32. After that, the drama pretty much went downhill. Only watchable when XL appeared. Some people will understand why while others will not. It's ok. Just my opinion.Characters Wise:
In the beginning, Xiao Yao was independent. She didn't need any man in her life to complete her. However, after she became a princess, her character development went from a mature woman to a jealous girl in love. However, that is not the case with all of the male leads. She is very smart FL but when it comes to her love's life, she is clueless and dense.
CX - XY is mature, understanding, supportive
TSJ-XY is sometimes immature and jealous, going back and forth with TSJ's Fiancee issue.
XL-XY is mature, understanding on a deep level, heart-to-heart conversation, deep emotions
Cang Xuan - XY and CX got two of the purest, family loves that have ever been portrayed in Drama Land. They got each other back and will be ready to die for each other. However, throughout this ordeal, CX has to keep his one-sided love to himself due to his goal to protect Xy by becoming the King of Xiyan. Throughout this journey, he has used XY for his political gain but has also protected her along the way. Along the way, he has some character development. He went from being an overprotective brother to an understanding brother. Unfortunately, he will lose XY due to his yearning for XY's loves.
TSJ - TSJ is one of the kindest, purest men but has no backbone which becomes his weakness in the future. He is attentive but sometimes, that attentiveness is overdone. Imagine a guy asking you to go meet him and when you don't, he stays there until you feel bad enough to show up. In addition, locking down XY with a 15-year promise when he hasn't sorted out his Fiancee issues and continues for many more episodes. Also, his chemistry with XY as Shiqi was strong but once he become TSJ, he became weaker, and his chemistry with XY, for me, just kind of appeared boring from Epi 26-28 due to him never sorting out his Fiancee issue. Like come on dude, you have 39 episodes to sort out your life.
Xiang Liu - is my biased but I won't go into detail about why I love him. After episode 32, I cannot watch other people's scenes anymore. I skipped and watch XL's scenes because his scenes always make me cry and smile like an idiot. I get it. Although he has the bad boy aura, he is truly a person who is straightforward, goal-orientated, and knows what he wants-cleaning up XY and Jing's messes for them. Although he did some unforgivable things to the female, he also repaid her back with more than what he did to her: taking the love bug, giving XY his life twice, and saving Jing from death so XY and Jing can have a happy ending. His character development was one of the greatest, most complex characters created since AOL and 1000P.
As you reach Epi 32, you will start to understand why the title is so sad. However, XY and Jing deserved each other. I am glad XL will get the result that he has since the beginning till now. Sometimes, a happy ending is realizing your dreams.
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What pisses me off after I got to epi 32?
Everyone fighting about who deserves XY but did anyone observe whether XY deserve them?
In my opinion, XY is selfish, indecisive, weak, reliant, and not as independent as the beginning XY before she met all of them. Her character development turns for the worse.
She and Jing truly deserved each other. I am glad that they will kill XL after all the shit that he has done and will be doing for both of these two weak characters.
At this point, I am so done with this drama. Xiang Liu and Cangxuan are the only two characters holding this drama together. Without their presence, it is probably just another weak romance story.
I'm glad the author put the title "Lost You Forever" with regret and the possibility of what could have been. The author realized that sometimes, we don't deserve good things. Although some said the title is for CangXuan and XY, but I disagree. The title is for all of the main characters. Although it is a HE for XY and Jing, only a sad title is what they both deserved. Just my opinion.
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